Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle! - Page 37 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-14-2004, 10:16 AM

In article <wzgzc.4072$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Paul wrote:

> Most drivers won't swerve for a coon or skunk and if the dog has a tag on the collar,
> his owner is mine.

Must be different where you live. As a 100% legally riding bicyclist
I can say that the majority of drivers treat geese better than bicyclists.

06-14-2004, 11:49 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] n.umich.edu>...
> I was walking down Bloor St when I saw a copcycle pull over a cyclist for
> running a red light...talk about shock and awe! I've never seen the likes
> of this before. The cop ordered the cyclist to dismount, walk his bike to
> the corner and park it, then lectured the guy for a few minutes ("Red
> lights mean STOP, whether you're in a car or on a bike or on your feet!
> It's the same rules of the road for you as for everyone else who uses
> it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> let him ride off.

The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
infraction. More stories here:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

> I'd like to see a lot more of this kind of police activity, but pragmatic
> questions pretty much scotch the idea. There's no law requiring
> registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for that
> matter, any form of identification at all -- while riding one. Should be,
> but isn't. So what if the cop stops someone who hasn't got ID? What,
> exactly, can the cop do? And even if s/he succeeds in writing a ticket,

In Ontario anyway providing your correct name and address to the cop
is considered to be valid ID. If the cop doesn't think you are telling
the truth, they can detain you as they can detain you for anything
else.

> what's to motivate the recipient to pay it? There'll be no demerit points
> on his driver's license (which s/he may not even have). There'll be no
> increase in insurance premiums (which s/he's not required to carry).
> There'll be no denial of renewed registration (also not required).

Credit rating?

> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

06-14-2004, 11:49 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] n.umich.edu>...
> I was walking down Bloor St when I saw a copcycle pull over a cyclist for
> running a red light...talk about shock and awe! I've never seen the likes
> of this before. The cop ordered the cyclist to dismount, walk his bike to
> the corner and park it, then lectured the guy for a few minutes ("Red
> lights mean STOP, whether you're in a car or on a bike or on your feet!
> It's the same rules of the road for you as for everyone else who uses
> it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> let him ride off.

The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
infraction. More stories here:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

> I'd like to see a lot more of this kind of police activity, but pragmatic
> questions pretty much scotch the idea. There's no law requiring
> registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for that
> matter, any form of identification at all -- while riding one. Should be,
> but isn't. So what if the cop stops someone who hasn't got ID? What,
> exactly, can the cop do? And even if s/he succeeds in writing a ticket,

In Ontario anyway providing your correct name and address to the cop
is considered to be valid ID. If the cop doesn't think you are telling
the truth, they can detain you as they can detain you for anything
else.

> what's to motivate the recipient to pay it? There'll be no demerit points
> on his driver's license (which s/he may not even have). There'll be no
> increase in insurance premiums (which s/he's not required to carry).
> There'll be no denial of renewed registration (also not required).

Credit rating?

> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

06-14-2004, 11:49 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] n.umich.edu>...
> I was walking down Bloor St when I saw a copcycle pull over a cyclist for
> running a red light...talk about shock and awe! I've never seen the likes
> of this before. The cop ordered the cyclist to dismount, walk his bike to
> the corner and park it, then lectured the guy for a few minutes ("Red
> lights mean STOP, whether you're in a car or on a bike or on your feet!
> It's the same rules of the road for you as for everyone else who uses
> it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> let him ride off.

The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
infraction. More stories here:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

> I'd like to see a lot more of this kind of police activity, but pragmatic
> questions pretty much scotch the idea. There's no law requiring
> registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for that
> matter, any form of identification at all -- while riding one. Should be,
> but isn't. So what if the cop stops someone who hasn't got ID? What,
> exactly, can the cop do? And even if s/he succeeds in writing a ticket,

In Ontario anyway providing your correct name and address to the cop
is considered to be valid ID. If the cop doesn't think you are telling
the truth, they can detain you as they can detain you for anything
else.

> what's to motivate the recipient to pay it? There'll be no demerit points
> on his driver's license (which s/he may not even have). There'll be no
> increase in insurance premiums (which s/he's not required to carry).
> There'll be no denial of renewed registration (also not required).

Credit rating?

> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

06-14-2004, 11:49 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] n.umich.edu>...
> I was walking down Bloor St when I saw a copcycle pull over a cyclist for
> running a red light...talk about shock and awe! I've never seen the likes
> of this before. The cop ordered the cyclist to dismount, walk his bike to
> the corner and park it, then lectured the guy for a few minutes ("Red
> lights mean STOP, whether you're in a car or on a bike or on your feet!
> It's the same rules of the road for you as for everyone else who uses
> it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> let him ride off.

The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
infraction. More stories here:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

> I'd like to see a lot more of this kind of police activity, but pragmatic
> questions pretty much scotch the idea. There's no law requiring
> registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for that
> matter, any form of identification at all -- while riding one. Should be,
> but isn't. So what if the cop stops someone who hasn't got ID? What,
> exactly, can the cop do? And even if s/he succeeds in writing a ticket,

In Ontario anyway providing your correct name and address to the cop
is considered to be valid ID. If the cop doesn't think you are telling
the truth, they can detain you as they can detain you for anything
else.

> what's to motivate the recipient to pay it? There'll be no demerit points
> on his driver's license (which s/he may not even have). There'll be no
> increase in insurance premiums (which s/he's not required to carry).
> There'll be no denial of renewed registration (also not required).

Credit rating?

> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

06-14-2004, 11:49 AM

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] n.umich.edu>...
> I was walking down Bloor St when I saw a copcycle pull over a cyclist for
> running a red light...talk about shock and awe! I've never seen the likes
> of this before. The cop ordered the cyclist to dismount, walk his bike to
> the corner and park it, then lectured the guy for a few minutes ("Red
> lights mean STOP, whether you're in a car or on a bike or on your feet!
> It's the same rules of the road for you as for everyone else who uses
> it!"). The guy was arguing that he bicycles in this area all the time,
> there were no cars coming, etc. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> let him ride off.

The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
infraction. More stories here:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

> I'd like to see a lot more of this kind of police activity, but pragmatic
> questions pretty much scotch the idea. There's no law requiring
> registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for that
> matter, any form of identification at all -- while riding one. Should be,
> but isn't. So what if the cop stops someone who hasn't got ID? What,
> exactly, can the cop do? And even if s/he succeeds in writing a ticket,

In Ontario anyway providing your correct name and address to the cop
is considered to be valid ID. If the cop doesn't think you are telling
the truth, they can detain you as they can detain you for anything
else.

> what's to motivate the recipient to pay it? There'll be no demerit points
> on his driver's license (which s/he may not even have). There'll be no
> increase in insurance premiums (which s/he's not required to carry).
> There'll be no denial of renewed registration (also not required).

Credit rating?

> Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> bicycles until the ticket is paid.

Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

06-14-2004, 11:56 AM

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Tanya wrote:

> The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
> campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
> infraction. More stories here:
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Interesting!

> > Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> > bicycles until the ticket is paid.
>
> Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

That's essentially what refusal to renew registration amounts to.

-Stern

06-14-2004, 11:56 AM

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Tanya wrote:

> The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
> campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
> infraction. More stories here:
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Interesting!

> > Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> > bicycles until the ticket is paid.
>
> Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

That's essentially what refusal to renew registration amounts to.

-Stern

06-14-2004, 11:56 AM

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Tanya wrote:

> The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
> campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
> infraction. More stories here:
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Interesting!

> > Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> > bicycles until the ticket is paid.
>
> Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

That's essentially what refusal to renew registration amounts to.

-Stern

06-14-2004, 11:56 AM

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Tanya wrote:

> The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
> campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
> infraction. More stories here:
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Interesting!

> > Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> > bicycles until the ticket is paid.
>
> Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

That's essentially what refusal to renew registration amounts to.

-Stern