Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle! - Page 4 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-12-2004, 05:02 AM

Bob Newman wrote:
> Too many to read every reply, I hope this wasn't touched on. We here in
> Florida have had police crack downs in the past giving cyclists tickets for
> not stopping, as you say "cyclists are subject to the same traffic laws as
> anyone else". That is not quite true in this case, cyclists are required to
> do more! Simply stopping at a stop sign can still get you a ticket IF you
> fail to put one foot fully on the ground. Comments?

Sounds like the usual over-enforcement directed at auto drivers, where the
cop says you "didn't stop" if you didn't wait 5 seconds before proceeding.
The law needs to recognize that when your car rocks back on its springs,
you've stopped.

06-12-2004, 05:49 AM

<snip>. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??
>
> Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I doubt it.
</snip>

I'm neither and I've had warnings for that AND speeding while driving a car.

<snip>
> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know? </snip>

A cyclist can see further down the road than drivers in a car coming to a
stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
trip the sensor to make the light change.

Just as there are different rules for pedestrians, trucks, busses, and
motorcycles... There are different rules for cyclists. Some need to be
modified with the times but there are differences.

06-12-2004, 05:49 AM

<snip>. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??
>
> Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I doubt it.
</snip>

I'm neither and I've had warnings for that AND speeding while driving a car.

<snip>
> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know? </snip>

A cyclist can see further down the road than drivers in a car coming to a
stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
trip the sensor to make the light change.

Just as there are different rules for pedestrians, trucks, busses, and
motorcycles... There are different rules for cyclists. Some need to be
modified with the times but there are differences.

06-12-2004, 05:49 AM

<snip>. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??
>
> Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I doubt it.
</snip>

I'm neither and I've had warnings for that AND speeding while driving a car.

<snip>
> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know? </snip>

A cyclist can see further down the road than drivers in a car coming to a
stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
trip the sensor to make the light change.

Just as there are different rules for pedestrians, trucks, busses, and
motorcycles... There are different rules for cyclists. Some need to be
modified with the times but there are differences.

06-12-2004, 05:49 AM

<snip>. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??
>
> Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I doubt it.
</snip>

I'm neither and I've had warnings for that AND speeding while driving a car.

<snip>
> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know? </snip>

A cyclist can see further down the road than drivers in a car coming to a
stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
trip the sensor to make the light change.

Just as there are different rules for pedestrians, trucks, busses, and
motorcycles... There are different rules for cyclists. Some need to be
modified with the times but there are differences.

06-12-2004, 05:49 AM

<snip>. The cop (surprise...) told the guy he was
> > just warning him this time rather than writing a ticket, and eventually
> > let him ride off.
>
> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??
>
> Unless the driver was a politician or fellow cop, I doubt it.
</snip>

I'm neither and I've had warnings for that AND speeding while driving a car.

<snip>
> And I love the argument from the bicyclist: there were no cars coming.
> How the frig does he know? </snip>

A cyclist can see further down the road than drivers in a car coming to a
stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
trip the sensor to make the light change.

Just as there are different rules for pedestrians, trucks, busses, and
motorcycles... There are different rules for cyclists. Some need to be
modified with the times but there are differences.

06-12-2004, 07:01 AM

"<<<<<< ]] gun_dog99 [[ >>>>>>" wrote:

>
> stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
> at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
> trip the sensor to make the light change.

Applies to all vehicles. If a signal is not working properly, one may
proceed with caution. A vehicle not tripping a sensor indicates a
siognal not working properly.

06-12-2004, 07:01 AM

"<<<<<< ]] gun_dog99 [[ >>>>>>" wrote:

>
> stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
> at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
> trip the sensor to make the light change.

Applies to all vehicles. If a signal is not working properly, one may
proceed with caution. A vehicle not tripping a sensor indicates a
siognal not working properly.

06-12-2004, 07:01 AM

"<<<<<< ]] gun_dog99 [[ >>>>>>" wrote:

>
> stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
> at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
> trip the sensor to make the light change.

Applies to all vehicles. If a signal is not working properly, one may
proceed with caution. A vehicle not tripping a sensor indicates a
siognal not working properly.

06-12-2004, 07:01 AM

"<<<<<< ]] gun_dog99 [[ >>>>>>" wrote:

>
> stop. Also many states have provisions for cyclists, if there is no traffic
> at the light the cyclist can proceed due to the fact that bicycles may not
> trip the sensor to make the light change.

Applies to all vehicles. If a signal is not working properly, one may
proceed with caution. A vehicle not tripping a sensor indicates a
siognal not working properly.