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Old 06-14-2004, 02:22 PM   #441 (permalink)
Brent P
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

In article <cal46s$i9g$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, John David Galt wrote:
>> Must be different where you live. As a 100% legally riding bicyclist
>> I can say that the majority of drivers treat geese better than bicyclists.

>
> Geese can't be expected to know what they're doing.


I don't stop for geese, they then either abort their road crossing
nonsense or get out of the way before I reach them. Even if not so,
it's no excuse for treating them better than a legal road user.


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Old 06-14-2004, 02:37 PM   #442 (permalink)
Kevan Smith
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:32:45 GMT, keydates <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
from cyclingforums.com wrote:

>On a slightly different topic, how do traffic lights work?


In a lot of different ways, none very bicycle oriented

If you are looking for ways to reduce your wait or make them all while they
are green, then the key is repetition. Ride the same routes each time and over
a period of a few weeks you will learn the speeds you need to ride between
various lights. I play it like a game now. My goal is to ride crosstown on my
fixie without putting a foot down -- trackstands don't count. In other words,
go crosstown making all the lights and not stopping. It's not an impossible
goal, I don't think.


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Old 06-14-2004, 02:37 PM   #443 (permalink)
Kevan Smith
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:32:45 GMT, keydates <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
from cyclingforums.com wrote:

>On a slightly different topic, how do traffic lights work?


In a lot of different ways, none very bicycle oriented

If you are looking for ways to reduce your wait or make them all while they
are green, then the key is repetition. Ride the same routes each time and over
a period of a few weeks you will learn the speeds you need to ride between
various lights. I play it like a game now. My goal is to ride crosstown on my
fixie without putting a foot down -- trackstands don't count. In other words,
go crosstown making all the lights and not stopping. It's not an impossible
goal, I don't think.


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Kevan Smith
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:37 PM   #444 (permalink)
Kevan Smith
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:32:45 GMT, keydates <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
from cyclingforums.com wrote:

>On a slightly different topic, how do traffic lights work?


In a lot of different ways, none very bicycle oriented

If you are looking for ways to reduce your wait or make them all while they
are green, then the key is repetition. Ride the same routes each time and over
a period of a few weeks you will learn the speeds you need to ride between
various lights. I play it like a game now. My goal is to ride crosstown on my
fixie without putting a foot down -- trackstands don't count. In other words,
go crosstown making all the lights and not stopping. It's not an impossible
goal, I don't think.


--
Kevan Smith
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:37 PM   #445 (permalink)
Kevan Smith
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:32:45 GMT, keydates <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
from cyclingforums.com wrote:

>On a slightly different topic, how do traffic lights work?


In a lot of different ways, none very bicycle oriented

If you are looking for ways to reduce your wait or make them all while they
are green, then the key is repetition. Ride the same routes each time and over
a period of a few weeks you will learn the speeds you need to ride between
various lights. I play it like a game now. My goal is to ride crosstown on my
fixie without putting a foot down -- trackstands don't count. In other words,
go crosstown making all the lights and not stopping. It's not an impossible
goal, I don't think.


--
Kevan Smith
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:37 PM   #446 (permalink)
Kevan Smith
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:32:45 GMT, keydates <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
from cyclingforums.com wrote:

>On a slightly different topic, how do traffic lights work?


In a lot of different ways, none very bicycle oriented

If you are looking for ways to reduce your wait or make them all while they
are green, then the key is repetition. Ride the same routes each time and over
a period of a few weeks you will learn the speeds you need to ride between
various lights. I play it like a game now. My goal is to ride crosstown on my
fixie without putting a foot down -- trackstands don't count. In other words,
go crosstown making all the lights and not stopping. It's not an impossible
goal, I don't think.


--
Kevan Smith
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:50 PM   #447 (permalink)
Tanya
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in.umich.edu>...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Tanya wrote:
>
> > The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
> > campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
> > infraction. More stories here:
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

>
> Interesting!


Surely not interesting to the folks that find themselves with big fat
tickets for not having a bell or for doing a rolling stop at a stop
sign.

> > > Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> > > bicycles until the ticket is paid.

> >
> > Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

>
> That's essentially what refusal to renew registration amounts to.


Ah but the difference is there is a grace period. I'm assuming you are
talking about impounding the bicycle on the spot. Also refusal to
renew registration only amounts to an effective impounding if you
actually get caught driving the car without the renewed registration.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:50 PM   #448 (permalink)
Tanya
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in.umich.edu>...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Tanya wrote:
>
> > The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
> > campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
> > infraction. More stories here:
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

>
> Interesting!


Surely not interesting to the folks that find themselves with big fat
tickets for not having a bell or for doing a rolling stop at a stop
sign.

> > > Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> > > bicycles until the ticket is paid.

> >
> > Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

>
> That's essentially what refusal to renew registration amounts to.


Ah but the difference is there is a grace period. I'm assuming you are
talking about impounding the bicycle on the spot. Also refusal to
renew registration only amounts to an effective impounding if you
actually get caught driving the car without the renewed registration.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:50 PM   #449 (permalink)
Tanya
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in.umich.edu>...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Tanya wrote:
>
> > The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
> > campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
> > infraction. More stories here:
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

>
> Interesting!


Surely not interesting to the folks that find themselves with big fat
tickets for not having a bell or for doing a rolling stop at a stop
sign.

> > > Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> > > bicycles until the ticket is paid.

> >
> > Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

>
> That's essentially what refusal to renew registration amounts to.


Ah but the difference is there is a grace period. I'm assuming you are
talking about impounding the bicycle on the spot. Also refusal to
renew registration only amounts to an effective impounding if you
actually get caught driving the car without the renewed registration.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:50 PM   #450 (permalink)
Tanya
 
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Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle!

"Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in.umich.edu>...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Tanya wrote:
>
> > The cops in Toronto are in the midst right now of their "Cycle Right"
> > campaign which basically means stopping bicycles for *any* sort of
> > infraction. More stories here:
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

>
> Interesting!


Surely not interesting to the folks that find themselves with big fat
tickets for not having a bell or for doing a rolling stop at a stop
sign.

> > > Be nice if cops could/would (they probably can) write tickets and impound
> > > bicycles until the ticket is paid.

> >
> > Do you think they should do the same for automobiles?

>
> That's essentially what refusal to renew registration amounts to.


Ah but the difference is there is a grace period. I'm assuming you are
talking about impounding the bicycle on the spot. Also refusal to
renew registration only amounts to an effective impounding if you
actually get caught driving the car without the renewed registration.
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