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06-12-2004, 12:48 PM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
"Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When a
> bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in injuries
> and damages can be quite large.
>
>> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's killing
>> and injuring happy meal eaters?
>
> They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them. Different
> venue, same effect.

I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

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06-12-2004, 02:11 PM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Tom Keats wrote:

> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
> > Different venue, same effect.

> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before, but
> I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this has occurred.

'cause the cyclist, having caused mayhem, simply decides he's a
pedestrian, makes a 90-degree turn and cruises away from the scene. Did
anyone get his license plate? Oh that's right...he DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE
ONE!

06-12-2004, 02:11 PM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Tom Keats wrote:

> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
> > Different venue, same effect.

> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before, but
> I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this has occurred.

'cause the cyclist, having caused mayhem, simply decides he's a
pedestrian, makes a 90-degree turn and cruises away from the scene. Did
anyone get his license plate? Oh that's right...he DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE
ONE!

06-12-2004, 02:11 PM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Tom Keats wrote:

> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
> > Different venue, same effect.

> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before, but
> I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this has occurred.

'cause the cyclist, having caused mayhem, simply decides he's a
pedestrian, makes a 90-degree turn and cruises away from the scene. Did
anyone get his license plate? Oh that's right...he DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE
ONE!

06-12-2004, 02:11 PM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Tom Keats wrote:

> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
> > Different venue, same effect.

> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before, but
> I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this has occurred.

'cause the cyclist, having caused mayhem, simply decides he's a
pedestrian, makes a 90-degree turn and cruises away from the scene. Did
anyone get his license plate? Oh that's right...he DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE
ONE!

06-12-2004, 02:11 PM

On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, Tom Keats wrote:

> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
> > Different venue, same effect.

> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before, but
> I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this has occurred.

'cause the cyclist, having caused mayhem, simply decides he's a
pedestrian, makes a 90-degree turn and cruises away from the scene. Did
anyone get his license plate? Oh that's right...he DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE
ONE!

06-12-2004, 02:14 PM

In article <5nmfac.l9.ln@bud.garden.local>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Tom Keats) wrote:

>In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When a
>> bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in injuries
>> and damages can be quite large.
>>
>>> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's killing
>>> and injuring happy meal eaters?
>>
>> They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
>> multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them. Different
>> venue, same effect.
>
>I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
>but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
>has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

I saw something close. I was making a left turn (with the green light)
when a bicyclist ran the light just as I was turning. Needless to say
the bicyclist was going too fast for anyone to really react to his
presence. He ended up hitting an SUV (note the bicyclist hit the
vehicle, not the other way around.) The bike was totaled and the rider
found himself flat on his back. Amazingly, the bicyclist wasn't hurt, of
course the driver of the SUV wasn't hurt either, how could he be? Hell,
I didn't even see any scratches on the side of his vehicle...

I'm not going to claim that what Mr. Stern says never happens, but I
expect that when something like that happens but its a car rather than a
bike that is "ramming" through a busy intersection against the light, a
hell of a lot more damage occurs.

I still say he's just pissed because he sees bikes doing what he can't
do in his car, but he isn't willing to ride a bike in order to have the
privileges that bikers have. Of course, that doesn't stop him from
wanting to take those privileges away from the bicyclists.

06-12-2004, 02:14 PM

In article <5nmfac.l9.ln@bud.garden.local>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Tom Keats) wrote:

>In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When a
>> bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in injuries
>> and damages can be quite large.
>>
>>> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's killing
>>> and injuring happy meal eaters?
>>
>> They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
>> multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them. Different
>> venue, same effect.
>
>I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
>but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
>has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

I saw something close. I was making a left turn (with the green light)
when a bicyclist ran the light just as I was turning. Needless to say
the bicyclist was going too fast for anyone to really react to his
presence. He ended up hitting an SUV (note the bicyclist hit the
vehicle, not the other way around.) The bike was totaled and the rider
found himself flat on his back. Amazingly, the bicyclist wasn't hurt, of
course the driver of the SUV wasn't hurt either, how could he be? Hell,
I didn't even see any scratches on the side of his vehicle...

I'm not going to claim that what Mr. Stern says never happens, but I
expect that when something like that happens but its a car rather than a
bike that is "ramming" through a busy intersection against the light, a
hell of a lot more damage occurs.

I still say he's just pissed because he sees bikes doing what he can't
do in his car, but he isn't willing to ride a bike in order to have the
privileges that bikers have. Of course, that doesn't stop him from
wanting to take those privileges away from the bicyclists.

06-12-2004, 02:14 PM

In article <5nmfac.l9.ln@bud.garden.local>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Tom Keats) wrote:

>In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When a
>> bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in injuries
>> and damages can be quite large.
>>
>>> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's killing
>>> and injuring happy meal eaters?
>>
>> They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
>> multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them. Different
>> venue, same effect.
>
>I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
>but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
>has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

I saw something close. I was making a left turn (with the green light)
when a bicyclist ran the light just as I was turning. Needless to say
the bicyclist was going too fast for anyone to really react to his
presence. He ended up hitting an SUV (note the bicyclist hit the
vehicle, not the other way around.) The bike was totaled and the rider
found himself flat on his back. Amazingly, the bicyclist wasn't hurt, of
course the driver of the SUV wasn't hurt either, how could he be? Hell,
I didn't even see any scratches on the side of his vehicle...

I'm not going to claim that what Mr. Stern says never happens, but I
expect that when something like that happens but its a car rather than a
bike that is "ramming" through a busy intersection against the light, a
hell of a lot more damage occurs.

I still say he's just pissed because he sees bikes doing what he can't
do in his car, but he isn't willing to ride a bike in order to have the
privileges that bikers have. Of course, that doesn't stop him from
wanting to take those privileges away from the bicyclists.

06-12-2004, 02:14 PM

In article <5nmfac.l9.ln@bud.garden.local>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Tom Keats) wrote:

>In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When a
>> bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in injuries
>> and damages can be quite large.
>>
>>> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's killing
>>> and injuring happy meal eaters?
>>
>> They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
>> multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them. Different
>> venue, same effect.
>
>I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
>but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
>has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

I saw something close. I was making a left turn (with the green light)
when a bicyclist ran the light just as I was turning. Needless to say
the bicyclist was going too fast for anyone to really react to his
presence. He ended up hitting an SUV (note the bicyclist hit the
vehicle, not the other way around.) The bike was totaled and the rider
found himself flat on his back. Amazingly, the bicyclist wasn't hurt, of
course the driver of the SUV wasn't hurt either, how could he be? Hell,
I didn't even see any scratches on the side of his vehicle...

I'm not going to claim that what Mr. Stern says never happens, but I
expect that when something like that happens but its a car rather than a
bike that is "ramming" through a busy intersection against the light, a
hell of a lot more damage occurs.

I still say he's just pissed because he sees bikes doing what he can't
do in his car, but he isn't willing to ride a bike in order to have the
privileges that bikers have. Of course, that doesn't stop him from
wanting to take those privileges away from the bicyclists.