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06-13-2004, 11:38 AM

On 13 Jun 2004 17:27:22 GMT, David Reuteler <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Blue Gator <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides. Good
>> Idea or Bad Idea?
>
>while touring i've used a minidisc player and a headphone in one ear (or two
>if on the interstate -- noisier) while in rural areas and in some cases
>i would go so far as to say i'd have had a hard time w/o it (south dakota
>for instance). i'm pretty unapologetic about it. outside of touring and
>even on long rural rides locally and especially urban i would never use
>headphones.
>
>plenty of time for both the sounds of nature and music when you're riding
>7+ hours a day.
>
>mp3 players suck for touring (but you're not talking about that are you?)
>because of the recharge requirement. minidisc players went for a week or
>more on a AA. yow! and 6 albums per disc.

How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular. And how are
they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?

I believe my MP3 player will go about 6-8 hours depending on volume before
a battery change is needed. Then it's not hard, just a single AA, takes
about a minute when sweaty and breathing hard to change it...

-Badger

06-13-2004, 12:24 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On 13 Jun 2004 17:27:22 GMT, David Reuteler <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>mp3 players suck for touring (but you're not talking about that are you?)
>>because of the recharge requirement. minidisc players went for a week or
>>more on a AA. yow! and 6 albums per disc.
>
> How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
> a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
> some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular.

i use bsd boxes and macs so i can't use the frou-frou PC interface. anyhow,
i hooked up the digital out of a 5-disc changer to the digital input of a
recordable minidisc player (sony ?), set the record speed to slow, hit play
and went to bed. remember cds?

part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was the sound
quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason that's ironic is that
they were completely annihiliated in the marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha
ha.

> And how are
> they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?

never had a problem with skipping.

> I believe my MP3 player will go about 6-8 hours depending on volume before
> a battery change is needed. Then it's not hard, just a single AA, takes
> about a minute when sweaty and breathing hard to change it...

what's the capacity of your mp3 player? when i last had to worry about this
the mp3 players that took batteries had such small capacities that the
minidisc player was a better option (@ 6x6 = 36 albums). there may very well
be cheap 2gb cf mp3 players with good battery life. if there are use them.
--
david reuteler
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-13-2004, 12:24 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On 13 Jun 2004 17:27:22 GMT, David Reuteler <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>mp3 players suck for touring (but you're not talking about that are you?)
>>because of the recharge requirement. minidisc players went for a week or
>>more on a AA. yow! and 6 albums per disc.
>
> How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
> a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
> some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular.

i use bsd boxes and macs so i can't use the frou-frou PC interface. anyhow,
i hooked up the digital out of a 5-disc changer to the digital input of a
recordable minidisc player (sony ?), set the record speed to slow, hit play
and went to bed. remember cds?

part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was the sound
quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason that's ironic is that
they were completely annihiliated in the marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha
ha.

> And how are
> they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?

never had a problem with skipping.

> I believe my MP3 player will go about 6-8 hours depending on volume before
> a battery change is needed. Then it's not hard, just a single AA, takes
> about a minute when sweaty and breathing hard to change it...

what's the capacity of your mp3 player? when i last had to worry about this
the mp3 players that took batteries had such small capacities that the
minidisc player was a better option (@ 6x6 = 36 albums). there may very well
be cheap 2gb cf mp3 players with good battery life. if there are use them.
--
david reuteler
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-13-2004, 12:24 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On 13 Jun 2004 17:27:22 GMT, David Reuteler <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>mp3 players suck for touring (but you're not talking about that are you?)
>>because of the recharge requirement. minidisc players went for a week or
>>more on a AA. yow! and 6 albums per disc.
>
> How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
> a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
> some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular.

i use bsd boxes and macs so i can't use the frou-frou PC interface. anyhow,
i hooked up the digital out of a 5-disc changer to the digital input of a
recordable minidisc player (sony ?), set the record speed to slow, hit play
and went to bed. remember cds?

part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was the sound
quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason that's ironic is that
they were completely annihiliated in the marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha
ha.

> And how are
> they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?

never had a problem with skipping.

> I believe my MP3 player will go about 6-8 hours depending on volume before
> a battery change is needed. Then it's not hard, just a single AA, takes
> about a minute when sweaty and breathing hard to change it...

what's the capacity of your mp3 player? when i last had to worry about this
the mp3 players that took batteries had such small capacities that the
minidisc player was a better option (@ 6x6 = 36 albums). there may very well
be cheap 2gb cf mp3 players with good battery life. if there are use them.
--
david reuteler
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-13-2004, 12:24 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On 13 Jun 2004 17:27:22 GMT, David Reuteler <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>mp3 players suck for touring (but you're not talking about that are you?)
>>because of the recharge requirement. minidisc players went for a week or
>>more on a AA. yow! and 6 albums per disc.
>
> How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
> a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
> some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular.

i use bsd boxes and macs so i can't use the frou-frou PC interface. anyhow,
i hooked up the digital out of a 5-disc changer to the digital input of a
recordable minidisc player (sony ?), set the record speed to slow, hit play
and went to bed. remember cds?

part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was the sound
quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason that's ironic is that
they were completely annihiliated in the marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha
ha.

> And how are
> they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?

never had a problem with skipping.

> I believe my MP3 player will go about 6-8 hours depending on volume before
> a battery change is needed. Then it's not hard, just a single AA, takes
> about a minute when sweaty and breathing hard to change it...

what's the capacity of your mp3 player? when i last had to worry about this
the mp3 players that took batteries had such small capacities that the
minidisc player was a better option (@ 6x6 = 36 albums). there may very well
be cheap 2gb cf mp3 players with good battery life. if there are use them.
--
david reuteler
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-13-2004, 12:24 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On 13 Jun 2004 17:27:22 GMT, David Reuteler <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>mp3 players suck for touring (but you're not talking about that are you?)
>>because of the recharge requirement. minidisc players went for a week or
>>more on a AA. yow! and 6 albums per disc.
>
> How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
> a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
> some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular.

i use bsd boxes and macs so i can't use the frou-frou PC interface. anyhow,
i hooked up the digital out of a 5-disc changer to the digital input of a
recordable minidisc player (sony ?), set the record speed to slow, hit play
and went to bed. remember cds?

part of what kept them from becoming popular (ironically enuf) was the sound
quality .. they use a lossy compression. the reason that's ironic is that
they were completely annihiliated in the marketplace by mp3 players. ha ha
ha.

> And how are
> they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?

never had a problem with skipping.

> I believe my MP3 player will go about 6-8 hours depending on volume before
> a battery change is needed. Then it's not hard, just a single AA, takes
> about a minute when sweaty and breathing hard to change it...

what's the capacity of your mp3 player? when i last had to worry about this
the mp3 players that took batteries had such small capacities that the
minidisc player was a better option (@ 6x6 = 36 albums). there may very well
be cheap 2gb cf mp3 players with good battery life. if there are use them.
--
david reuteler
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-13-2004, 12:58 PM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:38:30 -0400, Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
>a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
>some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular. And how are
>they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?
>

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

I believe that there are minidisc players now that will play mp3s,
like CD players. And even without that, it's a pretty easy process
these days. Many minidiscs come packaged with simple interfaces for
just this.

One problem is that MD is a real-time recording medium. You can't burn
a minidisc like you can a CD, or dump data like you can to an mp3
player. Maybe they have solved this problem, also?

Skipping is pretty well not an issue.

06-13-2004, 12:58 PM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:38:30 -0400, Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
>a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
>some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular. And how are
>they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?
>

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

I believe that there are minidisc players now that will play mp3s,
like CD players. And even without that, it's a pretty easy process
these days. Many minidiscs come packaged with simple interfaces for
just this.

One problem is that MD is a real-time recording medium. You can't burn
a minidisc like you can a CD, or dump data like you can to an mp3
player. Maybe they have solved this problem, also?

Skipping is pretty well not an issue.

06-13-2004, 12:58 PM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:38:30 -0400, Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
>a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
>some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular. And how are
>they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?
>

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

I believe that there are minidisc players now that will play mp3s,
like CD players. And even without that, it's a pretty easy process
these days. Many minidiscs come packaged with simple interfaces for
just this.

One problem is that MD is a real-time recording medium. You can't burn
a minidisc like you can a CD, or dump data like you can to an mp3
player. Maybe they have solved this problem, also?

Skipping is pretty well not an issue.

06-13-2004, 12:58 PM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 14:38:30 -0400, Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>How do you get the musics on the minidisc players? I dimly recall that it's
>a problem getting the MP3 from the PC to the mini-disc; or maybe there's
>some other hang up that kept them from becoming more popular. And how are
>they for anti-skip - is there a problem with that like on a CD?
>

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

I believe that there are minidisc players now that will play mp3s,
like CD players. And even without that, it's a pretty easy process
these days. Many minidiscs come packaged with simple interfaces for
just this.

One problem is that MD is a real-time recording medium. You can't burn
a minidisc like you can a CD, or dump data like you can to an mp3
player. Maybe they have solved this problem, also?

Skipping is pretty well not an issue.