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Old 06-16-2004, 10:39 AM   #71 (permalink)
Neil Cherry
 
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Re: Just finished 207 Mile ride (and I need to brag ;-) Long

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:46:49 -0700, LioNiNoiL_a t_Ne t s c a pE_D 0 T_Ne T wrote:
>> Talk to people who have ridden doubles and they'll
>> poo-poo it as being easy.

>
> I know a number of double-century riders, and none of them has ever
> poo-pood any 200-mile ride, to my knowledge. Good ride report, Neil!


I couple of folks told me it was too easy. But I also know people who
are doing Boston-Montreal-Boston and they were as excited as I was
about doing it. Now doing brevets sounds like torture. ;-) But for now
I promised my wife only short rides (nothing over 120 miles in one day
;-).

And for those who are wondering, yes once you start doing longer rides
your idea of what a short ride is changes. My Saturday club rides will
now be between 65 and 100 for the rest of the summer. It just depends
how lost I want to get from where I start. An after work ride is now
35 - 40 miles. It also helps that my speeds are up as that means 65 -
100 is 3.5 - 5.5 hours (with stops & no hills) and 35 - 40 miles is
less than 2 hours (no stops & no hills). 14 years ago I was riding 64
miles with an average speed of 15.5 mph (no hills).

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Old 06-16-2004, 11:21 AM   #72 (permalink)
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> And for those who are wondering, yes once you start doing longer rides
> your idea of what a short ride is changes. My Saturday club rides will
> now be between 65 and 100 for the rest of the summer. It just depends
> how lost I want to get from where I start. An after work ride is now
> 35 - 40 miles. It also helps that my speeds are up as that means 65 -
> 100 is 3.5 - 5.5 hours (with stops & no hills) and 35 - 40 miles is
> less than 2 hours (no stops & no hills). 14 years ago I was riding 64
> miles with an average speed of 15.5 mph (no hills).


I think a 100 mile ride with no hills is really not hard at all. To me it
is the hills that really hurt. My heart rate doesn't go up much going 20
mph on the flats by myself, let alone being in a pack taking turns up front
and getting done much faster due to speed increase due to a pack. 200 miles
is a big number no matter what. Just sitting on a saddle that long is work.
Heck that is probably 8+ hours on the saddle.

I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride by
myself.

Enjoy,
Curt


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Old 06-16-2004, 11:21 AM   #73 (permalink)
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> And for those who are wondering, yes once you start doing longer rides
> your idea of what a short ride is changes. My Saturday club rides will
> now be between 65 and 100 for the rest of the summer. It just depends
> how lost I want to get from where I start. An after work ride is now
> 35 - 40 miles. It also helps that my speeds are up as that means 65 -
> 100 is 3.5 - 5.5 hours (with stops & no hills) and 35 - 40 miles is
> less than 2 hours (no stops & no hills). 14 years ago I was riding 64
> miles with an average speed of 15.5 mph (no hills).


I think a 100 mile ride with no hills is really not hard at all. To me it
is the hills that really hurt. My heart rate doesn't go up much going 20
mph on the flats by myself, let alone being in a pack taking turns up front
and getting done much faster due to speed increase due to a pack. 200 miles
is a big number no matter what. Just sitting on a saddle that long is work.
Heck that is probably 8+ hours on the saddle.

I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride by
myself.

Enjoy,
Curt


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Old 06-16-2004, 11:21 AM   #74 (permalink)
curt
 
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> And for those who are wondering, yes once you start doing longer rides
> your idea of what a short ride is changes. My Saturday club rides will
> now be between 65 and 100 for the rest of the summer. It just depends
> how lost I want to get from where I start. An after work ride is now
> 35 - 40 miles. It also helps that my speeds are up as that means 65 -
> 100 is 3.5 - 5.5 hours (with stops & no hills) and 35 - 40 miles is
> less than 2 hours (no stops & no hills). 14 years ago I was riding 64
> miles with an average speed of 15.5 mph (no hills).


I think a 100 mile ride with no hills is really not hard at all. To me it
is the hills that really hurt. My heart rate doesn't go up much going 20
mph on the flats by myself, let alone being in a pack taking turns up front
and getting done much faster due to speed increase due to a pack. 200 miles
is a big number no matter what. Just sitting on a saddle that long is work.
Heck that is probably 8+ hours on the saddle.

I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride by
myself.

Enjoy,
Curt


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Old 06-16-2004, 11:21 AM   #75 (permalink)
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> And for those who are wondering, yes once you start doing longer rides
> your idea of what a short ride is changes. My Saturday club rides will
> now be between 65 and 100 for the rest of the summer. It just depends
> how lost I want to get from where I start. An after work ride is now
> 35 - 40 miles. It also helps that my speeds are up as that means 65 -
> 100 is 3.5 - 5.5 hours (with stops & no hills) and 35 - 40 miles is
> less than 2 hours (no stops & no hills). 14 years ago I was riding 64
> miles with an average speed of 15.5 mph (no hills).


I think a 100 mile ride with no hills is really not hard at all. To me it
is the hills that really hurt. My heart rate doesn't go up much going 20
mph on the flats by myself, let alone being in a pack taking turns up front
and getting done much faster due to speed increase due to a pack. 200 miles
is a big number no matter what. Just sitting on a saddle that long is work.
Heck that is probably 8+ hours on the saddle.

I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride by
myself.

Enjoy,
Curt


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Old 06-16-2004, 11:21 AM   #76 (permalink)
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> And for those who are wondering, yes once you start doing longer rides
> your idea of what a short ride is changes. My Saturday club rides will
> now be between 65 and 100 for the rest of the summer. It just depends
> how lost I want to get from where I start. An after work ride is now
> 35 - 40 miles. It also helps that my speeds are up as that means 65 -
> 100 is 3.5 - 5.5 hours (with stops & no hills) and 35 - 40 miles is
> less than 2 hours (no stops & no hills). 14 years ago I was riding 64
> miles with an average speed of 15.5 mph (no hills).


I think a 100 mile ride with no hills is really not hard at all. To me it
is the hills that really hurt. My heart rate doesn't go up much going 20
mph on the flats by myself, let alone being in a pack taking turns up front
and getting done much faster due to speed increase due to a pack. 200 miles
is a big number no matter what. Just sitting on a saddle that long is work.
Heck that is probably 8+ hours on the saddle.

I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride by
myself.

Enjoy,
Curt


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Old 06-16-2004, 12:04 PM   #77 (permalink)
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>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .


Agreed!

How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
average speed means little if you are doing hills.



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Old 06-16-2004, 12:04 PM   #78 (permalink)
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>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .


Agreed!

How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
average speed means little if you are doing hills.



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Old 06-16-2004, 12:04 PM   #79 (permalink)
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>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .


Agreed!

How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
average speed means little if you are doing hills.



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Old 06-16-2004, 12:04 PM   #80 (permalink)
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>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .


Agreed!

How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
average speed means little if you are doing hills.



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