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06-18-2004, 11:05 AM

"Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> DRS wrote:
>> "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>> DRS wrote:
>>>> "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>> have a great deterrent, too -- they print your name in the paper
>>>>> when you're arrested for drunk driving, in a column called "Drunk
>>>>> and In Jail." I'm not kidding.
>>>>
>>>> In which state is that? Not in the one in which I live.
>>>
>>> NSW, circa 1980, when they first started doing it. My friend in
>>> Queensland says they still do.
>>
>> We don't do it in Victoria and my guess would be most states don't do
>> it either.
>
> It would never fly here (US), that's for sure -- innocent until
> proven guilty, and all that.

Given the lack of sub judice rules in US jurisprudence and the subsequent
'trial by public' shenanigans by all concerned that would get them
imprisoned here on contempt of court charges, I find the irony in your
contention almost unbearable. All marked Australian police vehicles carry
portable breathalyzers, there's none of this sobriety test rubbish. Those
who were named failed the breathalyzer. If they truly want to challenge it
in court they are entitled to have blood tests done by both a police doctor
and their own, but few bother since the breathalyzers are ordinarily very
accurate. So they are in fact no more "innocent until proven' guilty than
someone who was booked for speeding or somesuch - it doesn't apply unless
they challenge it in court.

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06-18-2004, 12:46 PM

"Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> DRS wrote:
> > "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >> DRS wrote:
> >>> "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >>> [...]
> >>>> have a great deterrent, too -- they print your name in the paper
> >>>> when you're arrested for drunk driving, in a column called "Drunk
> >>>> and In Jail." I'm not kidding.
> >>>
> >>> In which state is that? Not in the one in which I live.
> >>
> >> NSW, circa 1980, when they first started doing it. My friend in
> >> Queensland says they still do.
> >
> > We don't do it in Victoria and my guess would be most states don't do
> > it either.
>
> It would never fly here (US), that's for sure -- innocent until proven
guilty,
> and all that.

Kobe Bryant, Phil Specter, Michael Jackson and Robert Blake would be
interested to know that their arrests cannot be reported in the media as
they have not yet been convicted.

--
'You talk too much
I can't beleive the things that you say.'
-george thorogood

06-18-2004, 12:46 PM

"Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> DRS wrote:
> > "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >> DRS wrote:
> >>> "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >>> [...]
> >>>> have a great deterrent, too -- they print your name in the paper
> >>>> when you're arrested for drunk driving, in a column called "Drunk
> >>>> and In Jail." I'm not kidding.
> >>>
> >>> In which state is that? Not in the one in which I live.
> >>
> >> NSW, circa 1980, when they first started doing it. My friend in
> >> Queensland says they still do.
> >
> > We don't do it in Victoria and my guess would be most states don't do
> > it either.
>
> It would never fly here (US), that's for sure -- innocent until proven
guilty,
> and all that.

Kobe Bryant, Phil Specter, Michael Jackson and Robert Blake would be
interested to know that their arrests cannot be reported in the media as
they have not yet been convicted.

--
'You talk too much
I can't beleive the things that you say.'
-george thorogood

06-18-2004, 12:46 PM

"Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> DRS wrote:
> > "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >> DRS wrote:
> >>> "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >>> [...]
> >>>> have a great deterrent, too -- they print your name in the paper
> >>>> when you're arrested for drunk driving, in a column called "Drunk
> >>>> and In Jail." I'm not kidding.
> >>>
> >>> In which state is that? Not in the one in which I live.
> >>
> >> NSW, circa 1980, when they first started doing it. My friend in
> >> Queensland says they still do.
> >
> > We don't do it in Victoria and my guess would be most states don't do
> > it either.
>
> It would never fly here (US), that's for sure -- innocent until proven
guilty,
> and all that.

Kobe Bryant, Phil Specter, Michael Jackson and Robert Blake would be
interested to know that their arrests cannot be reported in the media as
they have not yet been convicted.

--
'You talk too much
I can't beleive the things that you say.'
-george thorogood

06-18-2004, 12:46 PM

"Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> DRS wrote:
> > "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >> DRS wrote:
> >>> "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >>> [...]
> >>>> have a great deterrent, too -- they print your name in the paper
> >>>> when you're arrested for drunk driving, in a column called "Drunk
> >>>> and In Jail." I'm not kidding.
> >>>
> >>> In which state is that? Not in the one in which I live.
> >>
> >> NSW, circa 1980, when they first started doing it. My friend in
> >> Queensland says they still do.
> >
> > We don't do it in Victoria and my guess would be most states don't do
> > it either.
>
> It would never fly here (US), that's for sure -- innocent until proven
guilty,
> and all that.

Kobe Bryant, Phil Specter, Michael Jackson and Robert Blake would be
interested to know that their arrests cannot be reported in the media as
they have not yet been convicted.

--
'You talk too much
I can't beleive the things that you say.'
-george thorogood

06-18-2004, 12:46 PM

"Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> DRS wrote:
> > "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >> DRS wrote:
> >>> "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >>> [...]
> >>>> have a great deterrent, too -- they print your name in the paper
> >>>> when you're arrested for drunk driving, in a column called "Drunk
> >>>> and In Jail." I'm not kidding.
> >>>
> >>> In which state is that? Not in the one in which I live.
> >>
> >> NSW, circa 1980, when they first started doing it. My friend in
> >> Queensland says they still do.
> >
> > We don't do it in Victoria and my guess would be most states don't do
> > it either.
>
> It would never fly here (US), that's for sure -- innocent until proven
guilty,
> and all that.

Kobe Bryant, Phil Specter, Michael Jackson and Robert Blake would be
interested to know that their arrests cannot be reported in the media as
they have not yet been convicted.

--
'You talk too much
I can't beleive the things that you say.'
-george thorogood

06-18-2004, 05:23 PM

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:06:47 -0400, "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Rick Onanian wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:33:42 -0400, "Matt O'Toole"
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>> To one-up that, Australia has drive-through liquor stores!
>>
>> These exist in the US, too, at least in Massachusetts.
>
>I'll have a look when I'm up there tomorrow. Is that what they call a "packie?"
>
>Matt O.
>
In RI, there's one in Hoxsie. You order at a window and someone
brings it outside for you.
Been that way for awhile.
TomB

06-18-2004, 05:23 PM

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:06:47 -0400, "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Rick Onanian wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:33:42 -0400, "Matt O'Toole"
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>> To one-up that, Australia has drive-through liquor stores!
>>
>> These exist in the US, too, at least in Massachusetts.
>
>I'll have a look when I'm up there tomorrow. Is that what they call a "packie?"
>
>Matt O.
>
In RI, there's one in Hoxsie. You order at a window and someone
brings it outside for you.
Been that way for awhile.
TomB

06-18-2004, 05:23 PM

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:06:47 -0400, "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Rick Onanian wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:33:42 -0400, "Matt O'Toole"
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>> To one-up that, Australia has drive-through liquor stores!
>>
>> These exist in the US, too, at least in Massachusetts.
>
>I'll have a look when I'm up there tomorrow. Is that what they call a "packie?"
>
>Matt O.
>
In RI, there's one in Hoxsie. You order at a window and someone
brings it outside for you.
Been that way for awhile.
TomB

06-18-2004, 05:23 PM

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:06:47 -0400, "Matt O'Toole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Rick Onanian wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:33:42 -0400, "Matt O'Toole"
>> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>> To one-up that, Australia has drive-through liquor stores!
>>
>> These exist in the US, too, at least in Massachusetts.
>
>I'll have a look when I'm up there tomorrow. Is that what they call a "packie?"
>
>Matt O.
>
In RI, there's one in Hoxsie. You order at a window and someone
brings it outside for you.
Been that way for awhile.
TomB