Re: published helmet research - not troll - Page 14 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-23-2004, 07:59 PM

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:

> "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes: From last string of
>> > messages from Kunich:
>> > > Zauman, you haven't changed in 12 years. ..
>> >
>> > Kunich is reverting to form. When he sees the word "helmet," he
>> > goes competely irrational and starts to become abusive.
>>
>> So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please
>> explain what is abusive about that.
>
> I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your
> behavior, where you post continual personal attacks against anyone
> who disagrees with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you.
> As far as I'm concerned, you have no credibility.

Looks sort of like pot-kettle-black there, Bill.

06-23-2004, 08:05 PM

"Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> > >
> > > So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please explain
> > > what is abusive about that.
> >
> > I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your behavior,
> > where you post continual personal attacks against anyone who disagrees
> > with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you. As far as I'm
> > concerned, you have no credibility.
>
> So what you're saying is that you are so in love with helmets that you
> refuse to consider the possibility that any pro-helmet research could
> possibly be wrong regardless of the questionable technique of adding poorly
> documented data together and coming up with a preposterous finding (that
> more children could have had their lives saved by helmets than were killed
> in the time period.)

What I'm saying is that you personally are one of the most abusive
people on usenet, particularly wen it comes to anyone disagreeing with
your pet peeves. Anyone can go back to the archives and look (or
for that matter, they can look at the URL I recently posted.)

In every post of yours it seems there isn't a single research
result showing a positive result for helmet use that you haven't
disparaged (insulting the authors' competence.) If I missed one
in your long and continual rants on the subject, then please post
a citation.

> But please do continue the discussion Zauman, there's an entirely new
> generation of posters who deserve to see you in action.

Your 12 year long grudge is noted. Should I post the URL again
where you described yourself "in action?"

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-23-2004, 08:05 PM

"Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> > >
> > > So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please explain
> > > what is abusive about that.
> >
> > I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your behavior,
> > where you post continual personal attacks against anyone who disagrees
> > with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you. As far as I'm
> > concerned, you have no credibility.
>
> So what you're saying is that you are so in love with helmets that you
> refuse to consider the possibility that any pro-helmet research could
> possibly be wrong regardless of the questionable technique of adding poorly
> documented data together and coming up with a preposterous finding (that
> more children could have had their lives saved by helmets than were killed
> in the time period.)

What I'm saying is that you personally are one of the most abusive
people on usenet, particularly wen it comes to anyone disagreeing with
your pet peeves. Anyone can go back to the archives and look (or
for that matter, they can look at the URL I recently posted.)

In every post of yours it seems there isn't a single research
result showing a positive result for helmet use that you haven't
disparaged (insulting the authors' competence.) If I missed one
in your long and continual rants on the subject, then please post
a citation.

> But please do continue the discussion Zauman, there's an entirely new
> generation of posters who deserve to see you in action.

Your 12 year long grudge is noted. Should I post the URL again
where you described yourself "in action?"

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-23-2004, 08:05 PM

"Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> > >
> > > So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please explain
> > > what is abusive about that.
> >
> > I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your behavior,
> > where you post continual personal attacks against anyone who disagrees
> > with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you. As far as I'm
> > concerned, you have no credibility.
>
> So what you're saying is that you are so in love with helmets that you
> refuse to consider the possibility that any pro-helmet research could
> possibly be wrong regardless of the questionable technique of adding poorly
> documented data together and coming up with a preposterous finding (that
> more children could have had their lives saved by helmets than were killed
> in the time period.)

What I'm saying is that you personally are one of the most abusive
people on usenet, particularly wen it comes to anyone disagreeing with
your pet peeves. Anyone can go back to the archives and look (or
for that matter, they can look at the URL I recently posted.)

In every post of yours it seems there isn't a single research
result showing a positive result for helmet use that you haven't
disparaged (insulting the authors' competence.) If I missed one
in your long and continual rants on the subject, then please post
a citation.

> But please do continue the discussion Zauman, there's an entirely new
> generation of posters who deserve to see you in action.

Your 12 year long grudge is noted. Should I post the URL again
where you described yourself "in action?"

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-23-2004, 08:05 PM

"Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> > >
> > > So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please explain
> > > what is abusive about that.
> >
> > I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your behavior,
> > where you post continual personal attacks against anyone who disagrees
> > with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you. As far as I'm
> > concerned, you have no credibility.
>
> So what you're saying is that you are so in love with helmets that you
> refuse to consider the possibility that any pro-helmet research could
> possibly be wrong regardless of the questionable technique of adding poorly
> documented data together and coming up with a preposterous finding (that
> more children could have had their lives saved by helmets than were killed
> in the time period.)

What I'm saying is that you personally are one of the most abusive
people on usenet, particularly wen it comes to anyone disagreeing with
your pet peeves. Anyone can go back to the archives and look (or
for that matter, they can look at the URL I recently posted.)

In every post of yours it seems there isn't a single research
result showing a positive result for helmet use that you haven't
disparaged (insulting the authors' competence.) If I missed one
in your long and continual rants on the subject, then please post
a citation.

> But please do continue the discussion Zauman, there's an entirely new
> generation of posters who deserve to see you in action.

Your 12 year long grudge is noted. Should I post the URL again
where you described yourself "in action?"

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-23-2004, 08:05 PM

"Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> > >
> > > So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please explain
> > > what is abusive about that.
> >
> > I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your behavior,
> > where you post continual personal attacks against anyone who disagrees
> > with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you. As far as I'm
> > concerned, you have no credibility.
>
> So what you're saying is that you are so in love with helmets that you
> refuse to consider the possibility that any pro-helmet research could
> possibly be wrong regardless of the questionable technique of adding poorly
> documented data together and coming up with a preposterous finding (that
> more children could have had their lives saved by helmets than were killed
> in the time period.)

What I'm saying is that you personally are one of the most abusive
people on usenet, particularly wen it comes to anyone disagreeing with
your pet peeves. Anyone can go back to the archives and look (or
for that matter, they can look at the URL I recently posted.)

In every post of yours it seems there isn't a single research
result showing a positive result for helmet use that you haven't
disparaged (insulting the authors' competence.) If I missed one
in your long and continual rants on the subject, then please post
a citation.

> But please do continue the discussion Zauman, there's an entirely new
> generation of posters who deserve to see you in action.

Your 12 year long grudge is noted. Should I post the URL again
where you described yourself "in action?"

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-23-2004, 09:34 PM

Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>
> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> >> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes: From last string of
> >> > messages from Kunich:
> >> > > Zauman, you haven't changed in 12 years. ..
> >> >
> >> > Kunich is reverting to form. When he sees the word "helmet," he
> >> > goes competely irrational and starts to become abusive.
> >>
> >> So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please
> >> explain what is abusive about that.
> >
> > I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your
> > behavior, where you post continual personal attacks against anyone
> > who disagrees with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you.
> > As far as I'm concerned, you have no credibility.
>
> Looks sort of like pot-kettle-black there, Bill.

Nope. I only told them off after repeated abuse that continued for
over a month (or was it several months.) Eventually, I simply got fed
up with these bozos. And they were the only ones lying, which they
did repeatedly.

Bill

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-23-2004, 09:34 PM

Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>
> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> >> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes: From last string of
> >> > messages from Kunich:
> >> > > Zauman, you haven't changed in 12 years. ..
> >> >
> >> > Kunich is reverting to form. When he sees the word "helmet," he
> >> > goes competely irrational and starts to become abusive.
> >>
> >> So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please
> >> explain what is abusive about that.
> >
> > I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your
> > behavior, where you post continual personal attacks against anyone
> > who disagrees with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you.
> > As far as I'm concerned, you have no credibility.
>
> Looks sort of like pot-kettle-black there, Bill.

Nope. I only told them off after repeated abuse that continued for
over a month (or was it several months.) Eventually, I simply got fed
up with these bozos. And they were the only ones lying, which they
did repeatedly.

Bill

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-23-2004, 09:34 PM

Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>
> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> >> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes: From last string of
> >> > messages from Kunich:
> >> > > Zauman, you haven't changed in 12 years. ..
> >> >
> >> > Kunich is reverting to form. When he sees the word "helmet," he
> >> > goes competely irrational and starts to become abusive.
> >>
> >> So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please
> >> explain what is abusive about that.
> >
> > I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your
> > behavior, where you post continual personal attacks against anyone
> > who disagrees with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you.
> > As far as I'm concerned, you have no credibility.
>
> Looks sort of like pot-kettle-black there, Bill.

Nope. I only told them off after repeated abuse that continued for
over a month (or was it several months.) Eventually, I simply got fed
up with these bozos. And they were the only ones lying, which they
did repeatedly.

Bill

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-23-2004, 09:34 PM

Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>
> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >> "Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> >> > "Tom Kunich" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes: From last string of
> >> > messages from Kunich:
> >> > > Zauman, you haven't changed in 12 years. ..
> >> >
> >> > Kunich is reverting to form. When he sees the word "helmet," he
> >> > goes competely irrational and starts to become abusive.
> >>
> >> So by abusive you mean "you haven't changed in 12 years"? Please
> >> explain what is abusive about that.
> >
> > I think anyone can go back to the archives and look at your
> > behavior, where you post continual personal attacks against anyone
> > who disagrees with you, lying though your teeth when it suits you.
> > As far as I'm concerned, you have no credibility.
>
> Looks sort of like pot-kettle-black there, Bill.

Nope. I only told them off after repeated abuse that continued for
over a month (or was it several months.) Eventually, I simply got fed
up with these bozos. And they were the only ones lying, which they
did repeatedly.

Bill

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB