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06-17-2004, 11:22 AM
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| Re: published helmet research - not troll Frank Krygowski wrote: > The discussions take place at a much higher level than the typical > wreck.bike discussions (if you can believe such a thing!) For example, > no time is wasted on tales like "My buddy ran into a swarm of > butterflies, and I _know_ his helmet saved his life!!!!" ;-) It all > tends to be very scientific, very mathematical. Uh oh. I'm afraid you may have just woken up the Anti-Science Beast. Or perhaps I should say "drawn the attention of" -- the Beast never sleeps. -- Benjamin Lewis Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. -- Ambrose Bierce |
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06-17-2004, 02:07 PM
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| Re: published helmet research - not troll On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:48:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>: >Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point >you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute", >[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to make >it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time without a >helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute supports >carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age groups." And Randyt thinks that stopping using the Thompson, Rivara and Thompson figure of 85% efficacy would be "unhelpful" despite it's being derived by comparing entirely different populations and ascribing all the difference to helmet use. In other words, he is a True Believer :-) Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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06-17-2004, 02:07 PM
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| Re: published helmet research - not troll On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:48:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>: >Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point >you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute", >[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to make >it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time without a >helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute supports >carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age groups." And Randyt thinks that stopping using the Thompson, Rivara and Thompson figure of 85% efficacy would be "unhelpful" despite it's being derived by comparing entirely different populations and ascribing all the difference to helmet use. In other words, he is a True Believer :-) Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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06-17-2004, 02:07 PM
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| Re: published helmet research - not troll On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:48:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>: >Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point >you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute", >[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to make >it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time without a >helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute supports >carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age groups." And Randyt thinks that stopping using the Thompson, Rivara and Thompson figure of 85% efficacy would be "unhelpful" despite it's being derived by comparing entirely different populations and ascribing all the difference to helmet use. In other words, he is a True Believer :-) Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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06-17-2004, 02:07 PM
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| Re: published helmet research - not troll On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:48:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>: >Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point >you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute", >[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to make >it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time without a >helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute supports >carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age groups." And Randyt thinks that stopping using the Thompson, Rivara and Thompson figure of 85% efficacy would be "unhelpful" despite it's being derived by comparing entirely different populations and ascribing all the difference to helmet use. In other words, he is a True Believer :-) Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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