Re: published helmet research - not troll - Page 8 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-18-2004, 10:52 AM

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:

> Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>>
>> > You should note Krygowski's tactics.
>>
>> Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
>
> Liar.

Read your own post.

06-18-2004, 04:11 PM

Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>
> > Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
> >>
> >> > You should note Krygowski's tactics.
> >>
> >> Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
> >
> > Liar.
>
> Read your own post.

I know damn well what I posted and you are lying.

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06-18-2004, 04:11 PM

Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>
> > Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
> >>
> >> > You should note Krygowski's tactics.
> >>
> >> Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
> >
> > Liar.
>
> Read your own post.

I know damn well what I posted and you are lying.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-18-2004, 04:11 PM

Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>
> > Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
> >>
> >> > You should note Krygowski's tactics.
> >>
> >> Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
> >
> > Liar.
>
> Read your own post.

I know damn well what I posted and you are lying.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-18-2004, 04:11 PM

Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>
> > Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
> >>
> >> > You should note Krygowski's tactics.
> >>
> >> Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
> >
> > Liar.
>
> Read your own post.

I know damn well what I posted and you are lying.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-18-2004, 04:11 PM

Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
>
> > Tim McNamara <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:
> >>
> >> > You should note Krygowski's tactics.
> >>
> >> Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
> >
> > Liar.
>
> Read your own post.

I know damn well what I posted and you are lying.

--
My real name backwards: nemuaZ lliB

06-21-2004, 07:30 PM

"Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Frank Krygowski <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> > Another source is the Vehicular Cyclist site, at
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] with it's "Helmet FAQ." There are lots
> > of citations listed there, too.
>
> This site (at least, the so-called "Helmet FAQ") was created by a rabid
> anti-helmet person who would spew continued personal abuse at anyone
> who disagreed with him in the slightest. You should note Krygowski's
> tactics. He posts a link to Randy's site for "balance" but immediately
> disparages it.
>
> > Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point
> > you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute",
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to
> > make it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time
> > without a helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute
> > supports carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age
> > groups."
>
> Randy's site is not "rabid," even if you don't agree with everything
> he says (or anything he says, for that matter.)

Sorry, but your opinion has no more weight than Frank's and at least Frank
is willing to discuss matters. Randy is not.

06-21-2004, 07:30 PM

"Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Frank Krygowski <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> > Another source is the Vehicular Cyclist site, at
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] with it's "Helmet FAQ." There are lots
> > of citations listed there, too.
>
> This site (at least, the so-called "Helmet FAQ") was created by a rabid
> anti-helmet person who would spew continued personal abuse at anyone
> who disagreed with him in the slightest. You should note Krygowski's
> tactics. He posts a link to Randy's site for "balance" but immediately
> disparages it.
>
> > Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point
> > you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute",
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to
> > make it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time
> > without a helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute
> > supports carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age
> > groups."
>
> Randy's site is not "rabid," even if you don't agree with everything
> he says (or anything he says, for that matter.)

Sorry, but your opinion has no more weight than Frank's and at least Frank
is willing to discuss matters. Randy is not.

06-21-2004, 07:30 PM

"Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Frank Krygowski <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> > Another source is the Vehicular Cyclist site, at
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] with it's "Helmet FAQ." There are lots
> > of citations listed there, too.
>
> This site (at least, the so-called "Helmet FAQ") was created by a rabid
> anti-helmet person who would spew continued personal abuse at anyone
> who disagreed with him in the slightest. You should note Krygowski's
> tactics. He posts a link to Randy's site for "balance" but immediately
> disparages it.
>
> > Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point
> > you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute",
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to
> > make it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time
> > without a helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute
> > supports carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age
> > groups."
>
> Randy's site is not "rabid," even if you don't agree with everything
> he says (or anything he says, for that matter.)

Sorry, but your opinion has no more weight than Frank's and at least Frank
is willing to discuss matters. Randy is not.

06-21-2004, 07:30 PM

"Bill Z." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Frank Krygowski <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> > Another source is the Vehicular Cyclist site, at
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] with it's "Helmet FAQ." There are lots
> > of citations listed there, too.
>
> This site (at least, the so-called "Helmet FAQ") was created by a rabid
> anti-helmet person who would spew continued personal abuse at anyone
> who disagreed with him in the slightest. You should note Krygowski's
> tactics. He posts a link to Randy's site for "balance" but immediately
> disparages it.
>
> > Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point
> > you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute",
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to
> > make it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time
> > without a helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute
> > supports carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age
> > groups."
>
> Randy's site is not "rabid," even if you don't agree with everything
> he says (or anything he says, for that matter.)

Sorry, but your opinion has no more weight than Frank's and at least Frank
is willing to discuss matters. Randy is not.