"M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in news:xshFc.2259$oD3.2251
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> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being Freds.
> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original Fred,
> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
Fred Hall <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote:
> "M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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>> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being
> Freds.
>> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original Fred,
>> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
>>
>> (Curious)
>>
>
> Yeah...and it better be good...
well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often applied to someone
who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing knee high socks on a bike with a
rack, fenders and 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
--
david reuteler [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Fred Hall <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote:
> "M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:xshFc.2259$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
>> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being
> Freds.
>> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original Fred,
>> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
>>
>> (Curious)
>>
>
> Yeah...and it better be good...
well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often applied to someone
who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing knee high socks on a bike with a
rack, fenders and 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
--
david reuteler [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Fred Hall <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote:
> "M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:xshFc.2259$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
>> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being
> Freds.
>> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original Fred,
>> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
>>
>> (Curious)
>>
>
> Yeah...and it better be good...
well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often applied to someone
who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing knee high socks on a bike with a
rack, fenders and 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
--
david reuteler [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Fred Hall <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote:
> "M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:xshFc.2259$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
>> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being
> Freds.
>> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original Fred,
>> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
>>
>> (Curious)
>>
>
> Yeah...and it better be good...
well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often applied to someone
who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing knee high socks on a bike with a
rack, fenders and 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
--
david reuteler [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Fred Hall <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote:
> "M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:xshFc.2259$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
>> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being
> Freds.
>> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original Fred,
>> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
>>
>> (Curious)
>>
>
> Yeah...and it better be good...
well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often applied to someone
who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing knee high socks on a bike with a
rack, fenders and 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
--
david reuteler [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
"David Reuteler" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:40e5fa3b$0$99084$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com ...
> Fred Hall <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote:
> > "M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:xshFc.2259$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
> >> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being
> > Freds.
> >> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original
Fred,
> >> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
> >>
> >> (Curious)
> >>
> >
> > Yeah...and it better be good...
>
> well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often applied to someone
> who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing knee high socks on a bike with a
> rack, fenders and 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
> loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
> --
> david reuteler
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Right on target! And you conjur up an image off a guy in our area. He once
did the legendary Assault on Mt. Mitchel on a 40 lb. 3-speed "beach" type
bike with big chrome fenders. He wears knee socks, shorts that are about 15
years old, a t-shirt, an old styrofoam helmet, and he can kick anyone's ass
around on any climb around.
But regarding Freds ... I think the spelling has even drifted. Technically,
shouldn't it be Phreds?
"David Reuteler" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> Fred Hall <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote:
> > "M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:xshFc.2259$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
> >> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being
> > Freds.
> >> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original
Fred,
> >> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
> >>
> >> (Curious)
> >>
> >
> > Yeah...and it better be good...
>
> well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often applied to someone
> who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing knee high socks on a bike with a
> rack, fenders and 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
> loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
> --
> david reuteler
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Right on target! And you conjur up an image off a guy in our area. He once
did the legendary Assault on Mt. Mitchel on a 40 lb. 3-speed "beach" type
bike with big chrome fenders. He wears knee socks, shorts that are about 15
years old, a t-shirt, an old styrofoam helmet, and he can kick anyone's ass
around on any climb around.
But regarding Freds ... I think the spelling has even drifted. Technically,
shouldn't it be Phreds?
"David Reuteler" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:40e5fa3b$0$99084$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com ...
> Fred Hall <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote:
> > "M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:xshFc.2259$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
> >> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being
> > Freds.
> >> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original
Fred,
> >> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
> >>
> >> (Curious)
> >>
> >
> > Yeah...and it better be good...
>
> well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often applied to someone
> who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing knee high socks on a bike with a
> rack, fenders and 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
> loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
> --
> david reuteler
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Right on target! And you conjur up an image off a guy in our area. He once
did the legendary Assault on Mt. Mitchel on a 40 lb. 3-speed "beach" type
bike with big chrome fenders. He wears knee socks, shorts that are about 15
years old, a t-shirt, an old styrofoam helmet, and he can kick anyone's ass
around on any climb around.
But regarding Freds ... I think the spelling has even drifted. Technically,
shouldn't it be Phreds?
"David Reuteler" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:40e5fa3b$0$99084$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com ...
> Fred Hall <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com> wrote:
> > "M Powell" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> > news:xshFc.2259$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].pas.earthl ink.net...
> >> OK, so I keep seeing references to newbies & hopeless cases as being
> > Freds.
> >> Here's my ignorance, right on top of the table: Who was the original
Fred,
> >> and how did this name become associated with these folks?
> >>
> >> (Curious)
> >>
> >
> > Yeah...and it better be good...
>
> well, uhh, fred .. on a positive note the term is often applied to someone
> who kicks your ass on a club ride wearing knee high socks on a bike with a
> rack, fenders and 36 hole wheels. it doesn't have to mean an out & out
> loser, tho there's definitely been definition drift in that direction.
> --
> david reuteler
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Right on target! And you conjur up an image off a guy in our area. He once
did the legendary Assault on Mt. Mitchel on a 40 lb. 3-speed "beach" type
bike with big chrome fenders. He wears knee socks, shorts that are about 15
years old, a t-shirt, an old styrofoam helmet, and he can kick anyone's ass
around on any climb around.
But regarding Freds ... I think the spelling has even drifted. Technically,
shouldn't it be Phreds?