Where's Lance? - Page 11 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

07-07-2004, 07:09 AM

In article <WYIGc.60745$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].hcvlny.cv.net >,
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>
> "James Thomson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>
> > A few flat stages are won by lucky breakaway riders who time their escapes
> > well, or whose chance of an overall victory is deemed so slim that the
> > peloton doesn't deign to expend the energy required to chase them down.
> Any
> > attempt at a break by a major player would prompt an immediate response
> > from his rivals and their team mates, so again, the big names sit tight in
> > the peloton while the small fry are allowed a little glory.
> >
> > The mountain stages and time trials are where big gains can be made. The
> > aerodynamic advantage of the peloton disappears, and large amounts of time
> > can be gained and lost. The climbing specialists and overall contenders
> > fight it out in the Alps and Pyrenees, while the sprinters either pack
> > their bags and head for the beach, or straggle home inside the daily time
> > limit to remain in contention for the green jersey in Paris.
>
> I believe the rule is that the last rider must finish each day within 10
> percent of that day's ride time of the leader, thus a 5 hr. finish time for
> the stage win means that the Lantern Rouge (red lantern, or last rider on
> the train, or however it's spelled in French) must finish no more then 30
> minutes back.

The time cut actually varies, depending on the length, difficulty, etc,
of the stage, and it is not a hard-and-fast rule anyway; they are not
required to drop anybody if they don't want to, no matter how far back
he finishes.

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07-07-2004, 08:58 AM

"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 02:21:31 GMT, "curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >> The TTT should be great. I think Hamilton is going to be Lance's
biggest
> >> rival this year. Two Americans on the final podium is not impossible.
> >> Ullrich is a threat but I don't think he can hang on in the mountains,
and
> >> he's not a great descender. Should be a heck of a Tour, for certain.
> >
> >I feel Jan is the biggest competitor to Lance as Lance himself believes.
I
> >really don't feel Tyler is strong enough to really be a contender...JMHO.
> >Regardless, it was fun to watch today and I feel it is really going to be
a
> >great tour again.
> >
> >Curt
>
> Most recently the oddsmakers are putting Lance as the favorite 1:1.6, with
> Ulrich ~ 2.6:1, and Tyler at ~12:1, FWIW.
>
> -B

Cool. Those guys are usually pretty much on the mark.

Curt

07-07-2004, 08:58 AM

"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 02:21:31 GMT, "curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >> The TTT should be great. I think Hamilton is going to be Lance's
biggest
> >> rival this year. Two Americans on the final podium is not impossible.
> >> Ullrich is a threat but I don't think he can hang on in the mountains,
and
> >> he's not a great descender. Should be a heck of a Tour, for certain.
> >
> >I feel Jan is the biggest competitor to Lance as Lance himself believes.
I
> >really don't feel Tyler is strong enough to really be a contender...JMHO.
> >Regardless, it was fun to watch today and I feel it is really going to be
a
> >great tour again.
> >
> >Curt
>
> Most recently the oddsmakers are putting Lance as the favorite 1:1.6, with
> Ulrich ~ 2.6:1, and Tyler at ~12:1, FWIW.
>
> -B

Cool. Those guys are usually pretty much on the mark.

Curt

07-07-2004, 08:58 AM

"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 02:21:31 GMT, "curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >> The TTT should be great. I think Hamilton is going to be Lance's
biggest
> >> rival this year. Two Americans on the final podium is not impossible.
> >> Ullrich is a threat but I don't think he can hang on in the mountains,
and
> >> he's not a great descender. Should be a heck of a Tour, for certain.
> >
> >I feel Jan is the biggest competitor to Lance as Lance himself believes.
I
> >really don't feel Tyler is strong enough to really be a contender...JMHO.
> >Regardless, it was fun to watch today and I feel it is really going to be
a
> >great tour again.
> >
> >Curt
>
> Most recently the oddsmakers are putting Lance as the favorite 1:1.6, with
> Ulrich ~ 2.6:1, and Tyler at ~12:1, FWIW.
>
> -B

Cool. Those guys are usually pretty much on the mark.

Curt

07-07-2004, 08:58 AM

"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 02:21:31 GMT, "curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >> The TTT should be great. I think Hamilton is going to be Lance's
biggest
> >> rival this year. Two Americans on the final podium is not impossible.
> >> Ullrich is a threat but I don't think he can hang on in the mountains,
and
> >> he's not a great descender. Should be a heck of a Tour, for certain.
> >
> >I feel Jan is the biggest competitor to Lance as Lance himself believes.
I
> >really don't feel Tyler is strong enough to really be a contender...JMHO.
> >Regardless, it was fun to watch today and I feel it is really going to be
a
> >great tour again.
> >
> >Curt
>
> Most recently the oddsmakers are putting Lance as the favorite 1:1.6, with
> Ulrich ~ 2.6:1, and Tyler at ~12:1, FWIW.
>
> -B

Cool. Those guys are usually pretty much on the mark.

Curt

07-07-2004, 08:58 AM

"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 02:21:31 GMT, "curt" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >> The TTT should be great. I think Hamilton is going to be Lance's
biggest
> >> rival this year. Two Americans on the final podium is not impossible.
> >> Ullrich is a threat but I don't think he can hang on in the mountains,
and
> >> he's not a great descender. Should be a heck of a Tour, for certain.
> >
> >I feel Jan is the biggest competitor to Lance as Lance himself believes.
I
> >really don't feel Tyler is strong enough to really be a contender...JMHO.
> >Regardless, it was fun to watch today and I feel it is really going to be
a
> >great tour again.
> >
> >Curt
>
> Most recently the oddsmakers are putting Lance as the favorite 1:1.6, with
> Ulrich ~ 2.6:1, and Tyler at ~12:1, FWIW.
>
> -B

Cool. Those guys are usually pretty much on the mark.

Curt