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Old 07-05-2004, 04:03 PM   #101 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:51:53 -0400,
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> It
>results in more ill-will towards me, and gives motorists justification
>for their abuses.


Perhaps you can explain how this acclaimed increase of "ill-will"
manifests itself. How do you differentiate it from the normal level of
"ill-will" these caged scum demonstrate toward other road users?
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zk
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Old 07-05-2004, 04:03 PM   #102 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:51:53 -0400,
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> It
>results in more ill-will towards me, and gives motorists justification
>for their abuses.


Perhaps you can explain how this acclaimed increase of "ill-will"
manifests itself. How do you differentiate it from the normal level of
"ill-will" these caged scum demonstrate toward other road users?
--
zk
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Old 07-05-2004, 04:03 PM   #103 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:51:53 -0400,
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> It
>results in more ill-will towards me, and gives motorists justification
>for their abuses.


Perhaps you can explain how this acclaimed increase of "ill-will"
manifests itself. How do you differentiate it from the normal level of
"ill-will" these caged scum demonstrate toward other road users?
--
zk
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Old 07-05-2004, 04:03 PM   #104 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:51:53 -0400,
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> It
>results in more ill-will towards me, and gives motorists justification
>for their abuses.


Perhaps you can explain how this acclaimed increase of "ill-will"
manifests itself. How do you differentiate it from the normal level of
"ill-will" these caged scum demonstrate toward other road users?
--
zk
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Old 07-05-2004, 04:14 PM   #105 (permalink)
Luigi de Guzman
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:03:01 -0700, Zoot Katz <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:51:53 -0400,
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> It
>>results in more ill-will towards me, and gives motorists justification
>>for their abuses.

>
>Perhaps you can explain how this acclaimed increase of "ill-will"
>manifests itself. How do you differentiate it from the normal level of
>"ill-will" these caged scum demonstrate toward other road users?



Provocative CM riders project a negative image of us cyclists to
non-cyclists. Does it matter to us cyclists individually? no, not
really. We get crap from motorists all the time; big deal.

Does it win us any support? ah, well now THERE'S a question.

-Luigi



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Old 07-05-2004, 04:14 PM   #106 (permalink)
Luigi de Guzman
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:03:01 -0700, Zoot Katz <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:51:53 -0400,
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> It
>>results in more ill-will towards me, and gives motorists justification
>>for their abuses.

>
>Perhaps you can explain how this acclaimed increase of "ill-will"
>manifests itself. How do you differentiate it from the normal level of
>"ill-will" these caged scum demonstrate toward other road users?



Provocative CM riders project a negative image of us cyclists to
non-cyclists. Does it matter to us cyclists individually? no, not
really. We get crap from motorists all the time; big deal.

Does it win us any support? ah, well now THERE'S a question.

-Luigi



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Old 07-05-2004, 04:14 PM   #107 (permalink)
Luigi de Guzman
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:03:01 -0700, Zoot Katz <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:51:53 -0400,
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> It
>>results in more ill-will towards me, and gives motorists justification
>>for their abuses.

>
>Perhaps you can explain how this acclaimed increase of "ill-will"
>manifests itself. How do you differentiate it from the normal level of
>"ill-will" these caged scum demonstrate toward other road users?



Provocative CM riders project a negative image of us cyclists to
non-cyclists. Does it matter to us cyclists individually? no, not
really. We get crap from motorists all the time; big deal.

Does it win us any support? ah, well now THERE'S a question.

-Luigi



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Old 07-05-2004, 04:14 PM   #108 (permalink)
Luigi de Guzman
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:03:01 -0700, Zoot Katz <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:51:53 -0400,
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> It
>>results in more ill-will towards me, and gives motorists justification
>>for their abuses.

>
>Perhaps you can explain how this acclaimed increase of "ill-will"
>manifests itself. How do you differentiate it from the normal level of
>"ill-will" these caged scum demonstrate toward other road users?



Provocative CM riders project a negative image of us cyclists to
non-cyclists. Does it matter to us cyclists individually? no, not
really. We get crap from motorists all the time; big deal.

Does it win us any support? ah, well now THERE'S a question.

-Luigi



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Old 07-05-2004, 04:14 PM   #109 (permalink)
Luigi de Guzman
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 16:03:01 -0700, Zoot Katz <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 13:51:53 -0400,
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, Luigi de Guzman
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> It
>>results in more ill-will towards me, and gives motorists justification
>>for their abuses.

>
>Perhaps you can explain how this acclaimed increase of "ill-will"
>manifests itself. How do you differentiate it from the normal level of
>"ill-will" these caged scum demonstrate toward other road users?



Provocative CM riders project a negative image of us cyclists to
non-cyclists. Does it matter to us cyclists individually? no, not
really. We get crap from motorists all the time; big deal.

Does it win us any support? ah, well now THERE'S a question.

-Luigi



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Old 07-05-2004, 05:06 PM   #110 (permalink)
Hunrobe
 
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Re: Critical Mass Tunnel Freaks

>Luigi de Guzman [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>Provocative CM riders project a negative image of us cyclists to
>non-cyclists. Does it matter to us cyclists individually? no, not
>really. We get crap from motorists all the time; big deal.
>
>Does it win us any support? ah, well now THERE'S a question.
>


You put it very well, Luigi. Just as in every other protest, demonstration,
what have you there are some C-Mers that participate solely to thumb their
collective noses at "The Man". For them, provoking anger is what its all about
because it validates them in their own eyes. Those of us that were around in
the '60s and early '70s remember their type well. The usual appellation used to
describe them was "dilletante".

Regards,
Bob Hunt

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