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07-20-2004, 12:02 PM

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>
>Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>
>http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>
>Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish times are
>only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive the same time.
>
>James Thomson

Of course you are right. Thanks for the great aerial shot!

[I -believe- I heard the announcer on OLN saying something about a
second between them, but may have mis-heard. Obviously it's only a
fraction of a second, but hard to judge in some of the quick flashes
of certain shots that we see.]

Thx for the correction.

-B

07-20-2004, 01:49 PM

Badger_South wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> "Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>>
>> Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>>
>> http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>>
>> Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish
>> times are only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive
>> the same time.
>>
>> James Thomson
>
> Of course you are right. Thanks for the great aerial shot!
>
> [I -believe- I heard the announcer on OLN saying something about a
> second between them, but may have mis-heard. Obviously it's only a
> fraction of a second, but hard to judge in some of the quick flashes
> of certain shots that we see.]
>
> Thx for the correction.

Well, the announcer /did/ say that giving them the same time was a bit
"generous" (IIRC). Still, given the time bonuses for finishing 1-2-3, one
second isn't going to bother LA one wouldn't think.

Bill "just back from a hot little 15-mile loop (tried something new; will
stick to my 23-, 30, and 40-mile regulars)" S.

07-20-2004, 01:49 PM

Badger_South wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> "Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>>
>> Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>>
>> http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>>
>> Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish
>> times are only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive
>> the same time.
>>
>> James Thomson
>
> Of course you are right. Thanks for the great aerial shot!
>
> [I -believe- I heard the announcer on OLN saying something about a
> second between them, but may have mis-heard. Obviously it's only a
> fraction of a second, but hard to judge in some of the quick flashes
> of certain shots that we see.]
>
> Thx for the correction.

Well, the announcer /did/ say that giving them the same time was a bit
"generous" (IIRC). Still, given the time bonuses for finishing 1-2-3, one
second isn't going to bother LA one wouldn't think.

Bill "just back from a hot little 15-mile loop (tried something new; will
stick to my 23-, 30, and 40-mile regulars)" S.

07-20-2004, 01:49 PM

Badger_South wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> "Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>>
>> Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>>
>> http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>>
>> Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish
>> times are only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive
>> the same time.
>>
>> James Thomson
>
> Of course you are right. Thanks for the great aerial shot!
>
> [I -believe- I heard the announcer on OLN saying something about a
> second between them, but may have mis-heard. Obviously it's only a
> fraction of a second, but hard to judge in some of the quick flashes
> of certain shots that we see.]
>
> Thx for the correction.

Well, the announcer /did/ say that giving them the same time was a bit
"generous" (IIRC). Still, given the time bonuses for finishing 1-2-3, one
second isn't going to bother LA one wouldn't think.

Bill "just back from a hot little 15-mile loop (tried something new; will
stick to my 23-, 30, and 40-mile regulars)" S.

07-20-2004, 01:49 PM

Badger_South wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> "Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>>
>> Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>>
>> http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>>
>> Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish
>> times are only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive
>> the same time.
>>
>> James Thomson
>
> Of course you are right. Thanks for the great aerial shot!
>
> [I -believe- I heard the announcer on OLN saying something about a
> second between them, but may have mis-heard. Obviously it's only a
> fraction of a second, but hard to judge in some of the quick flashes
> of certain shots that we see.]
>
> Thx for the correction.

Well, the announcer /did/ say that giving them the same time was a bit
"generous" (IIRC). Still, given the time bonuses for finishing 1-2-3, one
second isn't going to bother LA one wouldn't think.

Bill "just back from a hot little 15-mile loop (tried something new; will
stick to my 23-, 30, and 40-mile regulars)" S.

07-20-2004, 01:49 PM

Badger_South wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> "Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>>
>> Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>>
>> http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>>
>> Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish
>> times are only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive
>> the same time.
>>
>> James Thomson
>
> Of course you are right. Thanks for the great aerial shot!
>
> [I -believe- I heard the announcer on OLN saying something about a
> second between them, but may have mis-heard. Obviously it's only a
> fraction of a second, but hard to judge in some of the quick flashes
> of certain shots that we see.]
>
> Thx for the correction.

Well, the announcer /did/ say that giving them the same time was a bit
"generous" (IIRC). Still, given the time bonuses for finishing 1-2-3, one
second isn't going to bother LA one wouldn't think.

Bill "just back from a hot little 15-mile loop (tried something new; will
stick to my 23-, 30, and 40-mile regulars)" S.

07-20-2004, 10:22 PM

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>
>Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>
>http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>
>Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish times are
>only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive the same time.
>
>James Thomson
>

Except, the finish is when the front wheel crosses the plane of the
finish, so the separation is really a bike and a half or a bit more.
Possibly could be a second in reality, but would not want to bet on it
unless I had some good equipment ;-)

- rick

07-20-2004, 10:22 PM

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>
>Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>
>http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>
>Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish times are
>only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive the same time.
>
>James Thomson
>

Except, the finish is when the front wheel crosses the plane of the
finish, so the separation is really a bike and a half or a bit more.
Possibly could be a second in reality, but would not want to bet on it
unless I had some good equipment ;-)

- rick

07-20-2004, 10:22 PM

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>
>Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>
>http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>
>Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish times are
>only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive the same time.
>
>James Thomson
>

Except, the finish is when the front wheel crosses the plane of the
finish, so the separation is really a bike and a half or a bit more.
Possibly could be a second in reality, but would not want to bet on it
unless I had some good equipment ;-)

- rick

07-20-2004, 10:22 PM

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:30:13 +0200, "James Thomson"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"Badger_South" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> Great rider, but no way Basso should have had same time on the
>> 15th stage today with Lance. There was no contact, and seeing
>> the overhead you realize how far ahead Lance was at the finish.
>
>Armstrong was about half a bike's length clear of Basso:
>
>http://www.letour.fr/2004/finish/finish15.jpg
>
>Even for an uphill finish, that's a fraction of a second. Finish times are
>only recorded to the nearest second, hence both receive the same time.
>
>James Thomson
>

Except, the finish is when the front wheel crosses the plane of the
finish, so the separation is really a bike and a half or a bit more.
Possibly could be a second in reality, but would not want to bet on it
unless I had some good equipment ;-)

- rick