TDF Crowd Math - Page 4 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

07-22-2004, 11:26 PM

>"Mike Kruger" [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>I entered just the rest of the quote, i.e. "doesn't guarantee happiness,
>only the pursuit of it." into Google, and it responded with several screens
>which all specified "U.S. Constitution" and "Ben Franklin".
>
>So, if this is not the correct quote, at least there are lots of other
>people who are wrong.
>
>
>
>--
>Mike Kruger
>The U.S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it.
>You have to catch up with it yourself.
> [Benjamin Franklin]
>

From what I've read, that quote supposedly was a reply to someone complaining
to Ben that the Constitution guaranteed happiness yet he had not gotten his
share. In that context, its understandable, even clever.
Ben may or may not have said it. He never wrote it and CNN wasn't around then
to record it if he did so it could well be a fabrication, rather like David
Millar's original statements about his EPO doping. (Cycling content rule
satisfied.)

Regards,
Bob Hunt

07-23-2004, 03:08 AM

"Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].webtv.net...
> Yesterday, at the conclusion of the Ad'H TT, I could have sworn I heard
> Phill Ligget say that Lance's avg speed was 23KPH, or 15 MPH, having
> completed the 10 KM (6 mile) course in just under 40 minutes.
>

15.5 km /40min *60 min * 1 hour = 23 kph
> Hass his arithmetic always been this bad?
>

no, plus he didn't do the math, it was the software showing data.

> - -
>
> "May you have the wind at your back.
> And a really low gear for the hills!"
>
> Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"
>
> Chris'Z Corner
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>

07-23-2004, 03:08 AM

"Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].webtv.net...
> Yesterday, at the conclusion of the Ad'H TT, I could have sworn I heard
> Phill Ligget say that Lance's avg speed was 23KPH, or 15 MPH, having
> completed the 10 KM (6 mile) course in just under 40 minutes.
>

15.5 km /40min *60 min * 1 hour = 23 kph
> Hass his arithmetic always been this bad?
>

no, plus he didn't do the math, it was the software showing data.

> - -
>
> "May you have the wind at your back.
> And a really low gear for the hills!"
>
> Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"
>
> Chris'Z Corner
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>

07-23-2004, 03:08 AM

"Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].webtv.net...
> Yesterday, at the conclusion of the Ad'H TT, I could have sworn I heard
> Phill Ligget say that Lance's avg speed was 23KPH, or 15 MPH, having
> completed the 10 KM (6 mile) course in just under 40 minutes.
>

15.5 km /40min *60 min * 1 hour = 23 kph
> Hass his arithmetic always been this bad?
>

no, plus he didn't do the math, it was the software showing data.

> - -
>
> "May you have the wind at your back.
> And a really low gear for the hills!"
>
> Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"
>
> Chris'Z Corner
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>

07-23-2004, 03:08 AM

"Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].webtv.net...
> Yesterday, at the conclusion of the Ad'H TT, I could have sworn I heard
> Phill Ligget say that Lance's avg speed was 23KPH, or 15 MPH, having
> completed the 10 KM (6 mile) course in just under 40 minutes.
>

15.5 km /40min *60 min * 1 hour = 23 kph
> Hass his arithmetic always been this bad?
>

no, plus he didn't do the math, it was the software showing data.

> - -
>
> "May you have the wind at your back.
> And a really low gear for the hills!"
>
> Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"
>
> Chris'Z Corner
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>

07-23-2004, 03:08 AM

"Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].webtv.net...
> Yesterday, at the conclusion of the Ad'H TT, I could have sworn I heard
> Phill Ligget say that Lance's avg speed was 23KPH, or 15 MPH, having
> completed the 10 KM (6 mile) course in just under 40 minutes.
>

15.5 km /40min *60 min * 1 hour = 23 kph
> Hass his arithmetic always been this bad?
>

no, plus he didn't do the math, it was the software showing data.

> - -
>
> "May you have the wind at your back.
> And a really low gear for the hills!"
>
> Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"
>
> Chris'Z Corner
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>

07-23-2004, 05:25 AM

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:10:37 -0500, "Mike Kruger"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Let's see. The course is 15.5km. That works out to 58 people per meter of
>road. Figuring people are packed in like sardines (getting half a meter of
>width, about 20 inches, each), this would still be 15 people deep, along
>both sides of he course, for the entire length of the course. Seems
>unlikely.

There's two sides to the road (in most areas) and there are multistory
viewing areas and stands. And some fans show up to party and watch the
whole thing on TV (still remember the picture from three years ago of
the guy looking up from the TV to see the bike racers go past), so
they wouldn't have to line the road. Would guess that it is still
optimistic.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

07-23-2004, 05:25 AM

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:10:37 -0500, "Mike Kruger"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Let's see. The course is 15.5km. That works out to 58 people per meter of
>road. Figuring people are packed in like sardines (getting half a meter of
>width, about 20 inches, each), this would still be 15 people deep, along
>both sides of he course, for the entire length of the course. Seems
>unlikely.

There's two sides to the road (in most areas) and there are multistory
viewing areas and stands. And some fans show up to party and watch the
whole thing on TV (still remember the picture from three years ago of
the guy looking up from the TV to see the bike racers go past), so
they wouldn't have to line the road. Would guess that it is still
optimistic.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

07-23-2004, 05:25 AM

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:10:37 -0500, "Mike Kruger"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Let's see. The course is 15.5km. That works out to 58 people per meter of
>road. Figuring people are packed in like sardines (getting half a meter of
>width, about 20 inches, each), this would still be 15 people deep, along
>both sides of he course, for the entire length of the course. Seems
>unlikely.

There's two sides to the road (in most areas) and there are multistory
viewing areas and stands. And some fans show up to party and watch the
whole thing on TV (still remember the picture from three years ago of
the guy looking up from the TV to see the bike racers go past), so
they wouldn't have to line the road. Would guess that it is still
optimistic.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

07-23-2004, 05:25 AM

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 20:10:37 -0500, "Mike Kruger"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Let's see. The course is 15.5km. That works out to 58 people per meter of
>road. Figuring people are packed in like sardines (getting half a meter of
>width, about 20 inches, each), this would still be 15 people deep, along
>both sides of he course, for the entire length of the course. Seems
>unlikely.

There's two sides to the road (in most areas) and there are multistory
viewing areas and stands. And some fans show up to party and watch the
whole thing on TV (still remember the picture from three years ago of
the guy looking up from the TV to see the bike racers go past), so
they wouldn't have to line the road. Would guess that it is still
optimistic.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...