Take your water with a pinch of salt - Page 8 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

08-02-2004, 05:40 AM

In article <410d92a4@news.ysu.edu>, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@mousepotato.com>
wrote:

> Doug Evans wrote:
> >
> > In various threads I've seen people state that you should drink x
> > litres of water per hour (or x/3 litres per 20 minutes, or whatever).
> >...
> >
> > Having said that, if you see a recommendation, *any* recommendation,
> > that specifies a certain rate of consumption without any
> > qualifications based on the factors mentioned above, *please* do not
> > take it seriously.
>
> I don't think that's a big problem, in the overall scheme of things.
>
> Such recommendations do have _some_ value, though. They get people
> thinking about drinking water. And I (and my family) have found that it
> is possible to drink too little water, and to feel terrible riding as a
> result. I find I _do_ have to "drink before I'm thirsty" as Velocio
> recommended.
>
>
> Regarding the subject line: Seriously, I do better riding if I put a
> pinch of salt in each water bottle. The tiny paper packets from fast
> food stores are a convenient way to carry some salt in a bike bag. And
> for especially hot rides, I use "Cardio" brand salt substitute, which
> has some potassium in it to go with the sodium.
>
> I recommend 0.8 grams of salt substitute per 750 milliliter bottle of
> water, taken at a rate of 0.97 bottles per hour. ;-)

Well, there you go again, Frank.

Hope you are not hypertensive!

Oh! BTW... do you put salt on your helmet?.....

HAND

--
"Freedom Is a Light for Which Many Have Died in Darkness"

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08-02-2004, 06:34 AM

Neil Cherry <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:42:32 -0700, LioNiNoiL_a t_N e t s c a p E_D 0 T_N e T wrote:
>>> 3 litres per hour is often quoted
>>
>> Seems a bit much: I've done many thousands of miles of self-contained
>> bike touring, I tend to sweat heavily, and even so, I drink only a
>> little over one litre per hour.
>
>I tend to agree, I have a 100+ oz (3L) Camelback. If I drank that
>every hour I wouldn't be spending too much time on the bike (think 'A
>River Runs Through It' ;-). I'd say a large bottle an hour unless it's
>really hot then maybe a bottle and a half.

FWIW, I can put down a 100oz Camelbak in a 45 minute ride and not have
to visit the bathroom (nor will I have gained any weight). Of course,
that's when riding "briskly" in temperatures over 100 degrees F (38C).

Lately I've been using two large water bottles to get the 'bak off my
back, and have no problem polishing them off in a 45 minute ride
(often arriving home feeling like I need to drink more).

Did I mention I tend to sweat profusely? ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Home of the $695 ti frame

08-02-2004, 06:34 AM

Neil Cherry <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:42:32 -0700, LioNiNoiL_a t_N e t s c a p E_D 0 T_N e T wrote:
>>> 3 litres per hour is often quoted
>>
>> Seems a bit much: I've done many thousands of miles of self-contained
>> bike touring, I tend to sweat heavily, and even so, I drink only a
>> little over one litre per hour.
>
>I tend to agree, I have a 100+ oz (3L) Camelback. If I drank that
>every hour I wouldn't be spending too much time on the bike (think 'A
>River Runs Through It' ;-). I'd say a large bottle an hour unless it's
>really hot then maybe a bottle and a half.

FWIW, I can put down a 100oz Camelbak in a 45 minute ride and not have
to visit the bathroom (nor will I have gained any weight). Of course,
that's when riding "briskly" in temperatures over 100 degrees F (38C).

Lately I've been using two large water bottles to get the 'bak off my
back, and have no problem polishing them off in a 45 minute ride
(often arriving home feeling like I need to drink more).

Did I mention I tend to sweat profusely? ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Home of the $695 ti frame

08-02-2004, 06:34 AM

Neil Cherry <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:42:32 -0700, LioNiNoiL_a t_N e t s c a p E_D 0 T_N e T wrote:
>>> 3 litres per hour is often quoted
>>
>> Seems a bit much: I've done many thousands of miles of self-contained
>> bike touring, I tend to sweat heavily, and even so, I drink only a
>> little over one litre per hour.
>
>I tend to agree, I have a 100+ oz (3L) Camelback. If I drank that
>every hour I wouldn't be spending too much time on the bike (think 'A
>River Runs Through It' ;-). I'd say a large bottle an hour unless it's
>really hot then maybe a bottle and a half.

FWIW, I can put down a 100oz Camelbak in a 45 minute ride and not have
to visit the bathroom (nor will I have gained any weight). Of course,
that's when riding "briskly" in temperatures over 100 degrees F (38C).

Lately I've been using two large water bottles to get the 'bak off my
back, and have no problem polishing them off in a 45 minute ride
(often arriving home feeling like I need to drink more).

Did I mention I tend to sweat profusely? ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Home of the $695 ti frame

08-02-2004, 06:34 AM

Neil Cherry <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:42:32 -0700, LioNiNoiL_a t_N e t s c a p E_D 0 T_N e T wrote:
>>> 3 litres per hour is often quoted
>>
>> Seems a bit much: I've done many thousands of miles of self-contained
>> bike touring, I tend to sweat heavily, and even so, I drink only a
>> little over one litre per hour.
>
>I tend to agree, I have a 100+ oz (3L) Camelback. If I drank that
>every hour I wouldn't be spending too much time on the bike (think 'A
>River Runs Through It' ;-). I'd say a large bottle an hour unless it's
>really hot then maybe a bottle and a half.

FWIW, I can put down a 100oz Camelbak in a 45 minute ride and not have
to visit the bathroom (nor will I have gained any weight). Of course,
that's when riding "briskly" in temperatures over 100 degrees F (38C).

Lately I've been using two large water bottles to get the 'bak off my
back, and have no problem polishing them off in a 45 minute ride
(often arriving home feeling like I need to drink more).

Did I mention I tend to sweat profusely? ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Home of the $695 ti frame

08-02-2004, 06:34 AM

Neil Cherry <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:42:32 -0700, LioNiNoiL_a t_N e t s c a p E_D 0 T_N e T wrote:
>>> 3 litres per hour is often quoted
>>
>> Seems a bit much: I've done many thousands of miles of self-contained
>> bike touring, I tend to sweat heavily, and even so, I drink only a
>> little over one litre per hour.
>
>I tend to agree, I have a 100+ oz (3L) Camelback. If I drank that
>every hour I wouldn't be spending too much time on the bike (think 'A
>River Runs Through It' ;-). I'd say a large bottle an hour unless it's
>really hot then maybe a bottle and a half.

FWIW, I can put down a 100oz Camelbak in a 45 minute ride and not have
to visit the bathroom (nor will I have gained any weight). Of course,
that's when riding "briskly" in temperatures over 100 degrees F (38C).

Lately I've been using two large water bottles to get the 'bak off my
back, and have no problem polishing them off in a 45 minute ride
(often arriving home feeling like I need to drink more).

Did I mention I tend to sweat profusely? ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Home of the $695 ti frame

08-02-2004, 07:25 AM

When you are thirsty then dehydration has begun to set in.

"Peter Cole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> "Doug Evans" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
>
> > Remember that it is very easy to
> > become dehydrated before you feel thirsty,
>
> I have not found this to be true.
>
>

08-02-2004, 07:25 AM

When you are thirsty then dehydration has begun to set in.

"Peter Cole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:QK4Pc.196908$IQ4.89295@attbi_s02...
> "Doug Evans" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
>
> > Remember that it is very easy to
> > become dehydrated before you feel thirsty,
>
> I have not found this to be true.
>
>

08-02-2004, 07:25 AM

When you are thirsty then dehydration has begun to set in.

"Peter Cole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:QK4Pc.196908$IQ4.89295@attbi_s02...
> "Doug Evans" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
>
> > Remember that it is very easy to
> > become dehydrated before you feel thirsty,
>
> I have not found this to be true.
>
>

08-02-2004, 07:25 AM

When you are thirsty then dehydration has begun to set in.

"Peter Cole" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:QK4Pc.196908$IQ4.89295@attbi_s02...
> "Doug Evans" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
>
> > Remember that it is very easy to
> > become dehydrated before you feel thirsty,
>
> I have not found this to be true.
>
>