What's Armstrong's secret? - Page 28 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

08-16-2004, 08:22 AM

Pat wrote:
>>> Sure, I'm glad he's got a new girl friend. I was just wondering how
>>> Luke enjoyed this year's tour and if Kristen liked Sheryl's new CD.
>>
>> Oh, boo-hoo. You make it sound like while Lance was sipping
>> champagne and riding on jets, his poor, starving ex-wife and
>> malnourished kid were fending off flies in a trailer park somewhere,
>> jiggling the wire on the TV trying to get reception while the
>> macaroni and cheese burn on the hot plate. Typical emotional appeal
>> by a typical bleeding heart.
>
> IMO, you're out of line, here. There is no need to run down the
> ex-wife and the three kids. And, it has nothing to do with a
> "bleeding heart". It has to do with how a person lives his life.
> Don't run down a guy because he thinks the honorable thing to do is
> the right thing to do.

Who's running down the ex and kids? I'm just saying that "Zoot" is in no
position to judge the situation, because HE DOESN'T KNOW THE PEOPLE
INVOLVED. (Nor do any of us I assume.)

If I thought that Armstrong had "abandoned" his family or otherwise been a
jerk -- which is possible but certainly not established -- then I might
judge him a jerk, too. From what I've seen and read he loves his kids like
crazy, and has treated his former wife with respect and sensitivity. (And
very well financially, too, one can bet.)

ZK took a cheap shot, and I commented on it.

Bill "period" S.

08-16-2004, 11:27 AM

Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:40 GMT,
<4j4Uc.4778$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, "S o r n i"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].rr.com> wrote:

>ZK took a cheap shot, and I commented on it.

I'm not given to idolatry at the expense of candor.

That my "cheap shot" was aimed at the cherry picking hero worshippers
entirely evaded you.

You can spit or swallow now. I'm done.
--
zk

08-16-2004, 11:27 AM

Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:40 GMT,
<4j4Uc.4778$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, "S o r n i"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].rr.com> wrote:

>ZK took a cheap shot, and I commented on it.

I'm not given to idolatry at the expense of candor.

That my "cheap shot" was aimed at the cherry picking hero worshippers
entirely evaded you.

You can spit or swallow now. I'm done.
--
zk

08-16-2004, 11:27 AM

Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:40 GMT,
<4j4Uc.4778$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, "S o r n i"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].rr.com> wrote:

>ZK took a cheap shot, and I commented on it.

I'm not given to idolatry at the expense of candor.

That my "cheap shot" was aimed at the cherry picking hero worshippers
entirely evaded you.

You can spit or swallow now. I'm done.
--
zk

08-16-2004, 11:27 AM

Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:40 GMT,
<4j4Uc.4778$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, "S o r n i"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].rr.com> wrote:

>ZK took a cheap shot, and I commented on it.

I'm not given to idolatry at the expense of candor.

That my "cheap shot" was aimed at the cherry picking hero worshippers
entirely evaded you.

You can spit or swallow now. I'm done.
--
zk

08-16-2004, 12:09 PM

Zoot Katz wrote:
> Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:40 GMT,
> <4j4Uc.4778$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, "S o r n i"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].rr.com> wrote:
>
>> ZK took a cheap shot, and I commented on it.
>
> I'm not given to idolatry at the expense of candor.

Ah, but you're just as guilty of judging something without knowing the facts
first-hand as those who think LA can do no wrong. I usually lean towards
giving people -- anyone -- the benefit of the doubt, UNTIL I KNOW DIFFERENT.
(Like, in YOUR case!)

> That my "cheap shot" was aimed at the cherry picking hero worshippers
> entirely evaded you.

And I heard plenty about his past marital troubles during this year's
coverage, so I don't share your view of that.

> You can spit or swallow now. I'm done.

Class act, Zoot. No wonder you're so bitter.

Bill "sea kelp" S.

08-16-2004, 12:09 PM

Zoot Katz wrote:
> Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:40 GMT,
> <4j4Uc.4778$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, "S o r n i"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].rr.com> wrote:
>
>> ZK took a cheap shot, and I commented on it.
>
> I'm not given to idolatry at the expense of candor.

Ah, but you're just as guilty of judging something without knowing the facts
first-hand as those who think LA can do no wrong. I usually lean towards
giving people -- anyone -- the benefit of the doubt, UNTIL I KNOW DIFFERENT.
(Like, in YOUR case!)

> That my "cheap shot" was aimed at the cherry picking hero worshippers
> entirely evaded you.

And I heard plenty about his past marital troubles during this year's
coverage, so I don't share your view of that.

> You can spit or swallow now. I'm done.

Class act, Zoot. No wonder you're so bitter.

Bill "sea kelp" S.

08-16-2004, 12:09 PM

Zoot Katz wrote:
> Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:40 GMT,
> <4j4Uc.4778$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, "S o r n i"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].rr.com> wrote:
>
>> ZK took a cheap shot, and I commented on it.
>
> I'm not given to idolatry at the expense of candor.

Ah, but you're just as guilty of judging something without knowing the facts
first-hand as those who think LA can do no wrong. I usually lean towards
giving people -- anyone -- the benefit of the doubt, UNTIL I KNOW DIFFERENT.
(Like, in YOUR case!)

> That my "cheap shot" was aimed at the cherry picking hero worshippers
> entirely evaded you.

And I heard plenty about his past marital troubles during this year's
coverage, so I don't share your view of that.

> You can spit or swallow now. I'm done.

Class act, Zoot. No wonder you're so bitter.

Bill "sea kelp" S.

08-16-2004, 12:09 PM

Zoot Katz wrote:
> Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:22:40 GMT,
> <4j4Uc.4778$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, "S o r n i"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].rr.com> wrote:
>
>> ZK took a cheap shot, and I commented on it.
>
> I'm not given to idolatry at the expense of candor.

Ah, but you're just as guilty of judging something without knowing the facts
first-hand as those who think LA can do no wrong. I usually lean towards
giving people -- anyone -- the benefit of the doubt, UNTIL I KNOW DIFFERENT.
(Like, in YOUR case!)

> That my "cheap shot" was aimed at the cherry picking hero worshippers
> entirely evaded you.

And I heard plenty about his past marital troubles during this year's
coverage, so I don't share your view of that.

> You can spit or swallow now. I'm done.

Class act, Zoot. No wonder you're so bitter.

Bill "sea kelp" S.

08-16-2004, 12:56 PM

Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:09:57 GMT,
<9E7Uc.4795$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, "S o r n i"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].rr.com> wrote:

>Class act, Zoot.

You wouldn't know.
--
zk